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[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 55 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Exhaust comes from pretending, so be yourself whether that is being stupidity positive or gravely negative. That won't demand much effort.

[–] amotio@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

Although, being gravely negative comes with its own additional issues like worrying about possible negative future that in 99% of cases does not happen. We have one overly negative person in the family and it is wearing them down, all is bad, other people do [put anything that you'd think is absolutely fine] better/differently so we must be doing it wrong and it will fall/catch on fire/explode. Being positively realistic is IMHO the best path.

But what do I know, maybe that is just the positive side of me talking and some train really derails and hits me in my office in 4th floor.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I always wonder if obsessively negative people ever feel joy. Or are they just wired to carry around rage boners all the time. If it isn't exhausting I just can't see how they can be happy

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

A lot of it comes from trauma, not always, but a lot.

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I always wonder if obsessively negative people ever feel joy.

We are. We are just more prone to demand justice, for people to be non-imbeciles. We feel joy when something good happens, we just rarely express that openly, because we believe that nice things are as it SHOULD be. Nice is normal. No reason to dance around about something as banal as "things going right". But we are angry about shit. More angry than most people who consider shit normal, but good things are something strange.

We, "obsessively negative people", are optimists.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

It's one thing to demand justice for those who cannot obtain it themselves. That is noble, and just.

It's quite another to lament all day about the guy who absent mindedly stole your place in the self checkout lane. To lay in accusations of malice when ignorance would otherwise do.

I'll grant you that the way things should be is very often at odds with the way things are. But no person I've met who I would describe as an obsessively negative person could ever be labeled an optimist. Their view of the world is always one of conflict. No grace given for innocent mistakes, no breath taken when the weight of the world comes down upon their shoulders in a way that simply cannot be changed. These people are ever the victim of their own mentality.

I wonder if they can experience joy because they seem hard wired to find the fault in every bit of happiness. To seek out sour grapes and bitter apples in every bowl of sweet fruit.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, that's healthy for me, but what about the people around me who need to maintain the illusion that everything is fine and okay?

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 1 points 4 days ago

"Gasligting" I suppose it is called in English and it is considered bad.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago

Good boy Mr. Peanut Butter.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

I am a centrist...but for anyone near me. You happy? Don't you see all this fucked up shit? You sad? Come ooon, look at all the places where sun shines through the bad news!

I am making other people bipolar xD

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I’m kinda just lukewarm all the time. Not overly positive or negative. Course that can vary depending on the day

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What makes a man go … neutral

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 points 4 days ago

Tell my wife... I said... hello...

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Isn't it exhausting?

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So... you're like, emotionally stable?

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

I guess dysthymia is technically being emotionally stable.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 1 points 4 days ago

Seems like a rarity these days huh

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have BPD; there are only extremes. There is no middle ground.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Its not negativity, it don't-give-a-shittery