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Just yet another example of the kind of "sources" allowed on .ml and the rest of the Triad

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I swear, these guys are just trolls, and not serious.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago

they're super cereal

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"I dont like those other sources because they don't push the narrative I want"

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 23 points 2 days ago

It's a little more subtle even than that. It is "OF COURSE we need to post unapologetic cheerleaders for (side A), because literally everything else in the world is cheerleaders for (side B)!"

The second part isn't even usually true, but even if it were, the logic doesn't make any sense. The solution to "not enough truth" is not "more of the right type of lies, to counterbalance."

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ahhh, the classic hurr, durr supporter of NATO, NATO shill, NATO propaganda!!!

Btw, I hope some tankie sees this lmao:

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Where is that this post has been captured by NATO video?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago

Tankies defending capitalist oligarchies. lovely

[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eh, dbzer0 doesn't seem that tankie, they're more of ignorant/misguided leftists.

But yes, db0 advocating against voting is sus as hell.

As for ani.social? Idk all I know is that one weird "anarchist" claiming to be from Japan having cringe takes like "if you run a small bussiness, you support capitalism/fascism" (paraphrased).

[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago

I just block what I don’t want to see, which includes half naked anime girls

[–] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Wish I knew what the fuck we did to end up on that list. Is this genAI stuff?

[–] hatorade@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because they don't like anarchists, because they're leftist.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's a broad stroke, members of this community are leftist as well. Honestly I don't think there's any right on Lemmy.

But it's because they federate with Hexbear

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 0 points 21 hours ago

Honestly I don't think there's any right on Lemmy.

Depends on who you ask. If you voted for Kamala, some people here will consider you part of the Right.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Anarchists are also considered tankies nowadays

[–] hatorade@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Everyone to the left of their favorite party is a Tankie. It's why Trump and Kalama call each other communists.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 22 hours ago

I wouldn't call them tankies but they are definitely politically crazies

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[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm curious, why have you added dbzer0 to that list?

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world -1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I've heard a lot of things, but nothing that I have verified or really needs repeating. But I think the fact that the UniversalMonk who has been banned from most of the larger servers is welcome there. It would definitely put a lot of people off.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Eldritch@piefed.world -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If you don't know who that is, color yourself lucky. Roughly a year and a half ago on-world. They were creating something like a community a day at one point. It was tens or hundreds of communities they were soul moderator of. With some weird posting. Not sure whether it was mental illness and too much time or large language models. Combative and dogmatic behavior in the section of many posts outside their own communities. Which if I remember correctly, got them banned permanently from many of them, and ultimately from the instance itself. To which they created new Alts for a while. So much so it was and still is a bit of a running joke to call any new random behaving oddly universalmonk for many people.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I'm curious if that's antiyanks.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago

Nah. UniversalMonk tends to be very fake friendly and passive agressive, Yankee Boy prefers being outright hostile and aggressive towards whoever they deem a Zionist, which is everybody. Monk is irritating to deal with, but they don't make thousands of accounts in a one-man war on a tiny social media platform because unlike lil ol' Yanks, Monk has most of their marbles intact.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They're outright trolling. If monk was trolling and not just obsessive and uninformed then they'd be a master troll compared to antiyank. Who's just a juvenile, tanky, edge lord. Only after saying those words just now, do I realize how redundant they are.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

idunno if yankiespoo is trolling, he's pretty deranged. Keeps DMing me images of dead kids and stuff and saying that I should go to prison for killing them

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

At first I thought it was trolling, but it's pretty clear it's someone who is very, very unwell in the head. Everything they do is so far beyond what a sane, rational individual would do.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago

yeah antiyanks is legitimately psychotic

idunno why he thinks I support israel

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 21 hours ago

LOL, who knows then

[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] hatorade@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you blocked an instance for no reason and acted like it was a good move? Yikes.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

did you make this blocked instance list yourself or?

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[–] TarantulaFudge@piefed.zip 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

lemmy.ml sucks, if anyone is controlling the narrative it's them. Some kind of bizaar nest of liberals that would rather have this trump disaster than vote for Kamala because she's not left enough. We're on the same team people, wake up!

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago

Don’t confuse ML’ers with liberals, progressives or even leftists - they are none of those things.

There is a reason they are derisively referred to as ‘Tankies’; they’re the sort of people who would cheer on the tanks during the Tianamin Square massacre.

Their entire world-view starts and ends at US/The West = Bad, China/Russia = Good. Everything else beyond that point is largely pageantry. While they do hold some views that overlap with leftist principles (pro-Palestine, pro-worker etc.); they overlap with far-right (pro-Fascist) principles that will over-write others.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Lol Dems aren't on the "same team", its more like begrudging temporary allies in a WW2 scenario. Like how the Tankies temporary sided with the Liberals against fascists. Same here, but this time the "allies" are the progressives and the "centrist" dems, against the fascists/tankies, these centrist/corporate dems aren't really our friend lmao. Primary the fuck out of them, but vote for the Dems in the general.

Edit: Phrasing

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Currently they're in the 1939s WW2 scenario. I.e. tankies and nazis allied together against mildly confused liberals and centrists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

[–] Juice@midwest.social 3 points 2 days ago
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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean the answer is, that as a NATO nation, we don't need anyone to 'approve' our news sources. But also, anything sanctioned by Russia is full of unadulterated removedry

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm confused here are you saying that story about YouTube unbanning those accounts was false? Cuz that was reported widely.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Technically all news outlets are propaganda outlets, it's just some work for the state.

... others work for ideologies, private individuals, companies, or economic systems.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 1 points 1 day ago

As long as you are using their software, you will be supporting or needing from the tankie devs so moving to mbin (or is it kbin?) or piefed is the only real option... Or fork lemmy.