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submitted 10 months ago by girlfreddy@lemmy.ca to c/news@lemmy.world

Over the past eight years, the process has been used at least 750 times on students. Some are as young as 5 years old.

The state law that allows for these removals, known as petitions for emergency evaluation, is meant to be limited to people with severe mental illness, who are endangering their own lives or safety or someone else’s. It’s the first step toward getting someone involuntarily committed to a psychiatric hospital.

But advocates say schools across the country are sending children to the emergency room for psychiatric evaluations in response to behaviors prompted by bullying or frustration over assignments. The ER trips, they say, often follow months, and sometimes years, of their needs not being met.

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[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 38 points 10 months ago

Jail the kids early so they get used to living in a penal nation.

/s

[-] spudwart@spudwart.com 38 points 10 months ago

I know you’re being sarcastic but it really does look like this.

Teaching kids to accept getting bullied and beaten, without retaliation or justice.

Teaching kids to mindlessly accept all authority.

This is 100% a slave generating structure.

And if you’re upset about it, or don’t behave 100% correctly, you will be arrested and imprisoned.

This is 100% a slave generating structure.

And if you’re upset about it, or don’t behave 100% correctly, you will be arrested and imprisoned.

100% exactly that, and I'm sorry do this, but not only one but two of your points are explicitly in the same song that's been at the top of my "most played" list lately. Snippets:

Nothing can save ya, you question the reign
You get rushed in and chained up
Fist raised but I must be insane
cos I can't figure a single goddamn way to change it

...

Only two generations away
from the world's most despicable slavery trade

Pioneered so many ways to degrade a human being
that it can't be changed to this day
Legacy so ingrained in the way that we think we no longer need chains
to be slaves

Uncle Sam Goddamn

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is fucking sickening.

I'm upset about it, come arrest me.

I have a cool surprise.

[-] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

That was a little ominous and disturbing. Do you need to talk?

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

So long as you're not helping keep this horrible slave-making process alive, then nope.

Otherwise, c'mon by.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Children's big behaviors have gotten markedly worse in the last 8 years. So, not justifying it, but I see a lot of this in my community. Teachers being accused of improper restraint of a kid that's literally drawing blood from the with their teeth.

Like... Fuck dude. Idk what the answer is. Ketamine?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

-- Socrates

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

I'm against the "kids these days" argument and I do try to be mindful of it.

That said, if there are statistics about increases in violent incidents (or other quantifiable data), I think those would be important to consider.

[-] NOPper@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

"...cross their legs..." 😱

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

How about the feds clamp down on predatory pricing, closes loopholes for the rich, stops investment groups from buying up housing (which increases costs across the board) and mandates a 32 hr week (WFH in all available jobs ofc).

Doing those 4 things would take a mountain of stress off parents/families so they could have more time with their kids & it would help school staff be more rested to be able to patiently work with the children.

[-] Blackhole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

There are a ton of kids with behavior challenges related to medical diagnoses. None of the things you listed will directly help those kids. They need medical treatment, the schools need more/better training, and they need to allocate more resources to help these kids in ways that are actually effective.

[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Teach your kids to behave or get a $5,000 ER/Ambulance bill.

~- the local Police and School Board

[-] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

I do security as a volunteer for a children’s organization on the weekends. There absolutely are kids that need to be taken away from their parents and evaluated by a medical professional. Currently we have a kid that is 4 years old that is worse than any adult I have ever encountered. Violent, abusive, foul mouthed, and just disgusting. I have met both parents and all of his siblings and I never would have guessed that this kid would be the outcome of that family. It’s hard to know what goes on behind closed doors but sometimes intervention is needed even if it is at an ER. Without a doubt, their entire family would benefit from this kids removal from that family.

[-] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Black students are more frequently subjected to these removals than their peers, according to available data.

Shocking. Black kids in school(and everywhere else they go) are always treated as threats first and kids second.

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