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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I just felt like people got tired of her and didn't read as much about her, so not as much reason to feature her

[–] spoopy@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Nah there's a pretty stark shift right when she started to talk about Gaza.

It's a pretty common trend, anyone that doesn't tow the Israeli party line is pretty quickly outcast or opposed.

[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 hour ago

It's sort of like Malala, and how she remained committed to socialism and Islam. I think ten years ago for a while the western boosters who brought her to international attention thought she'd flip and be a useful stooge. When she turned out to not be, we heard less and less of her.

Same deal with Greta Thunberg, who is something more dangerous than someone who can be bought: she's someone who is principled for climate justice and human rights.

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 20 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

On the other hand look at the Right wing Clowns celebrating the kidnapping of Greta. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TX2tu6J0JY

I may not like Greta, but credit where credit is due, She's brave. (Also Fuck NuxTaku you zionist pig, I heard your family is in Israel)

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 35 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

The liberal establishment always abandons effective fellow liberals. Sanders, Mamdani, Thunberg…they’re actually trying to do something. That makes the established neolibs look ineffective and upsets their donors. So they turn their backs on the rabble rousers.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The liberal establishment always abandons effective fellow liberals. Sanders, Mamdani, Thunberg…

This is where there really is a distinction between "liberal" and "leftist" or "progressive."

I would not call any of those three people "liberals."

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 6 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

The current anger with Sanders appears to be, from an outsiders pov, that he didn't criticize Israel by calling it a genocide soon enough.

That appears to be it.

I mean. To dismiss everything because one mistake, even if that mistake is massive, and then correcting that mistake, if belatedly, to me, says something very positive about that politician.

I'd prefer it was immediate, and it's gross that it took him so long, but all the other stuff isn't cancelled out by that. He's still a net positive. And he DID criticize earlier than any other us politician I can think of, and sure it Could have been even earlier and harsher, but like. Fuck. If you hate politicians for being open to changing mind based on new evidence, or reforming beliefs you don't like, or admitting mistakes, you are AGAINST them being rational and it plays right into the hands of neoliberal propagandists.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I mean. To dismiss everything because one mistake, even if that mistake is massive, and then correcting that mistake, if belatedly, to me, says something very positive about that politician.

even if it's clear that he's been doubling down on that mistake when presented with the evidence and then only switched it's become clear that the tide has begun turn?

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

Better late than never?

Would you rather the kind of politician that just lies constantly?

[–] magguzu@midwest.social 5 points 10 hours ago

There's more, he criticized protests against ICE in LA turning into riots, and had some nice things to say about Kirk after he was killed.

That said I think it's really unproductive for people to turn on him after he was a big spark in a movement and is still outspoken. He has irritated me a few times lately but he's still one of the most influential leaders.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 3 points 12 hours ago

These three people and neoliberals don't have anything in common. They'll stand at opposite ends of almost every political spectrum imaginable.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 31 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Liberal ‘leaders’ abandonment. There needs to be an understanding that leadership is no longer following the will of the people in the United States. On either the left or the right. This fact is more of a cause of why things are so crazy than anything the people are doing or wanting

At least in the United States

Also: Israel is currently a terrorist state

[–] SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml 8 points 22 hours ago

Also Israel now owns tiktok for a propaganda machine

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 136 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Greta could have become a very rich liberal grifter.

keep them Davos cheques coming in.

instead she's risking her life to help those humanity has abandoned.

respect

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 159 points 1 day ago (13 children)

They abandoned her around the time her environmental protests started being a little too effective. I mean disruptive.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 79 points 1 day ago (5 children)

they abandoned her right around the time she started to notice she wouldn't be effective unless she started attacking capitalism as the root cause.

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[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 82 points 1 day ago

Wasn't that also when she started being critical of the impact of capitalism on the environment? 🤔

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[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 95 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This isn’t at all to say her original stance was misguided. It is to say that she recognises genocide and ecocide come from the same root. Systems of power that destroy ecosystems also destroy people, also destroy planets, also destroy worlds. She is in many ways simply displaying a logical consistency, as much as a moral one, about the interconnected nature of the evils that plague our civilisation. And this is where she broke with a liberal class who see evils selectively and in terms framed and dictated by empire.

hear hear! Too many people who love the “first they came for” poem who still think Palestine is a pesky wedge issue being used against their boys in blue.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She's not that rowdy little girl anymore. Now she's a fierce young woman.

So of course they abandoned her.

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 16 points 13 hours ago

They dropped her the very moment it became clear she's an actual leftist and wasn't just this little kid talking about climate change.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago (7 children)

The term "liberal" is toxic. Liberal's are disliked by "the right" and by progressives. They are truly useless snowflakes that do nothing but virtue signal and sell everything and everyone out that threatens their convenience and comforts.

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