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Party sticks to its guns on healthcare and says it’s willing to hold out – much to the delight of its progressive supporters

When he sat down to talk about the US government shutdown with reporters from a closely read political newsletter this week, Chuck Schumer sounded as if he was relishing his standoff with the Republicans.

“Every day gets better for us,” he told Punchbowl News. As the shutdown got under way, Schumer explained, the Republican part believed that Democrats would quickly fold and vote to reopen the government, but instead they had stuck to their guns for a week and a half, demanding an array of concessions on healthcare and other issues.

Outrage followed from Republicans, who printed out the Senate minority leader’s remark on posters and condemned it before press conferences. The shutdown has prompted federal agencies to close or curtail operations nationwide, and forced hundreds of thousands of employees to stay home without immediate pay. Schumer, Republicans argued, was being callous.

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 6 days ago

Keep at it, don't barge. This is the biggest move they've done in this term, and I want them to stay strong.

I want them to win.

[–] trslim@pawb.social 4 points 6 days ago

"You mean... We dont have to do anything, and people are supportive about it? Wow!" -Democrats, probably.

Don't get me wrong, I want them to keep holding fast, but I just think its funny.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago
[–] Atom@lemmy.world 189 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Democrats are being callous" against federal workers, they say, as their King fires a third of them and asks if he can NOT pay them when the shutdown ends.

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[–] manxu@piefed.social 118 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I think the Democratic leadership learned from the last debt ceiling debacle, where they did whatever the GOP and Trump wanted and got pelted with figurative rotten eggs by everyone who was paying attention.

The Obamacare subsidies are an easy hill to die on. They are available to anyone who makes less than a high middle class income, and for a great many Americans, they are the absolutely only way they can afford health insurance.

A self-declaredly populist movement like MAGA should know better than making health care unaffordable to millions to pay for billionaire tax cuts and corruption.

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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago (9 children)

By Grabthar's hammer, never give up! Never surrender!

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 72 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Back in the Spring, we were all pissed off at Schmuck Schumer after he bent over and helped the MAGA Nazis keep the government open, because they said they'd negotiate on whatever the Dems wanted.

Six months later, and they haven't negotiated anything, and now they want to end healthcare. They give Sociopathic Oligarchs any tax break they demand, but they can't give one to the American people for their fucking HEALTH CARE? These people are psychopaths!

Now they are demanding that Dems end the strike, and THEN they'll negotiate? That's what they said last time, and now they're taking our health care away. If we give them our health care so they can open up the government and continue to abuse us, what will they take away in 6 months? Our freedom of speech? Our courts? Our ELECTIONS? OUR FREEDOM?

Nope, keep it closed down until they give us what we demand. The country they want to open isn't the country we want to open anyway. We're better off leaving it shut down, they'll do less damage.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 6 days ago

Chuck Schumer would fold in an instant if the republicans agreed to name the bill "the bipartisan bill of cooperation" and put $500 towards the Department of Education. The republicans won't even give him that.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just to be clear: Schumer is still a worthless sack of shit. The present impasse continues because he's doing nothing. And the one thing he's good at is doing nothing.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago

Oh, yeah, that's why I call him Schmuck Schumer. I've hated him passionately, ever since he and Gillibrand conspired to destroy Al Franken, a good man who would have enthusiastically stood up against Trump and MAGA.

But Schmuckie-Boy didn't like a strong Progressive rising and challenging for the presidency, and he wanted his friend and Republican-Lite Gillibrand to run, so he cleared the deck for her by stabbing Franken in the back. Then her candidate flamed in out in a few short weeks. They destroyed him for absolutely nothing, and got rid of the best man to fight Trump.

Since then, all he's done is make it easy for MAGAs to have anything they want. IF we manage to regain power, and we finally punish Trump and his henchmen, we should also investigate Schmuck and his treasonous Democrats who fully cooperated with MAGA in their rise. I suspect that we'll find that they were either complicit, or more worried about keeping their insider trading privileges than anything else.

MAGAs love to crow about polls showing Dem leadership with lower ratings than Trump, but just because voters hate Dems, doesn't mean they love MAGA. We actually despise both of them, and would love to throw out support behind a decent candidate who is committed to purging MAGA from society, and then rebuilding a moral America that is committed to the citizens, and not Sociopathic Oligarchs.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 68 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When assessing the bias of an article, look at how it ascribes all of the agency to one party.

Chuck Schumer sounded as if he were relishing his standoff with the Republicans

What Chuck Schumer is doing right now, it’s sickening.”

Democrats are maximizing the leverage they have

Outrage followed from Republicans, who printed out the Senate minority leader’s remark on posters and condemned it

the White House took it upon itself to increase the misery for government employees when Russ Vought, the director of the office of management and budget, began following through on his threat to carry out layoffs.

Notice how Republicans never simply do anything? The one action this article ascribes to Republicans is "following through on his threat".

Republican layoffs are deep inside a complicated sentence, well beneath the fold. But the HEADLINE, is...that the minority party refuses to vote for a bill they didn't get any input into. The fact they weren't allowed any input is unmentioned in the article.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So the Republicans control all three branches of government, including both houses of Congress, and it's the Democrats' fault that they can't pass a budget?

Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm not American and I dont understand this part.

What do they need the democrats to do in order to pass the budget?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Just a normal majority is not sufficient for the budget - for this, they need 60%.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They need 60 votes and not a simple majority so they need some Democrats to approve the vote

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

That's a Senate rule, which they could change with simple majority if they chose to.

So no, it's entirely on the Republicans.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

Yours jingle? I must've missed out on the upgrade at the snip. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 33 points 1 week ago

I am pleasantly surprised that they didn't fold. Hopefully they keep it up.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"What Chuck Schumer is doing right now, it’s sickening."

Who was it that called a recess early and hasn't backed down on ACA subsidies?

I must have Mike confused with Chuck.

[–] nibble4bits@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 days ago

The Speaker of the House has the power to keep everyone in session for as long as it takes to pass anything. Instead of voting over and over until anything passes, he's sent them away. The Democrats COULDN'T vote to pass right now, because only Mike Johnson can call them in to vote.

[–] Atlas48@ttrpg.network 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Democrats refuse to fold

check the temperature in hell.

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[–] GEESELICHIC@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The dems need to stick to their guns on this.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It'd be more in character for them to stick to their water pistols.

[–] klammeraffe@lemmy.cafe 1 points 5 days ago

Pool noodles.

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