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cross-posted from: https://ibbit.at/post/79747

The Trump administration is drawing up “secret lists of terrorist groups inside the United States,” Senator Elissa Slotkin said on the floor of Congress yesterday — the first such reference to the effects of National Security Presidential Memorandum 7 (NSPM-7). The directive, as I’ve reported, lays out Donald Trump’s policies with regard to equating “anti-Christian” and “anti-capitalist”…

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“The Trump administration define[s] domestic terrorism incredibly broadly,” Slotkin said. “It suggests that any group that talks about anti-Christian values, views they don’t like on migration or race, differing views on the role of the family, religion, or morality could all be grounds for labelling an organization as domestic terrorists.”

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[–] anoriginalthought@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh my, is that Senator Elissa Slotkin, "former" CIA Agent, from this famously disastrous interview? Well I'm sure a "former" CIA Agent would know a thing or two about compiling dossiers on American Citizens.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That interview reminded me of Ritchie Torres on Adam Friesland's show: starts out saying some reasonable-sounding things, but becomes completely paralyzed when questioned about Israel and can only trot out the vaguest, most noncommittal verbiage while ducking the main point every time. It's a very bad look.

[–] anoriginalthought@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Indeed it is, but fear not, for it's only because they're very bad powerful people defending a very bad evil society. Oh, perhaps some fear is warranted then...

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She is such a massive disappointment.

[–] anoriginalthought@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Disappointment is such a kind understatement for what she is.

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 85 points 3 days ago

There's already a list of people we need to watch out for. Let's see it.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Meanwhile, I see idiotic Confederate dumbasses posting stuff about how Republicans are "standing up for American freedoms".

Bull-fucking-shit they are. I didn't see Democrats step on one freedom of any Confederate dipshit. I see Republicans positively gleeful about stealing away freedom from MILLIONS.

They do realize that about 38% of Americans are not xtian, right? What the fuck does "anti-Christian" even mean? Is it "anti-Christian" to not want any affiliation with your little book club?

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What you’ve got to realize here is the freedom they’re talking about is their freedom to oppress “the others.”

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Oh yes. They use the Southern notion of "liberty", vs. the Northern notion. They really do think that if they are not privileged and set up to rule over others as "less than", that they don't have "freedom".

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[–] TASchwitters 32 points 3 days ago (3 children)

“Senators warn…” Do something!

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah you're the most powerful piece of the government. Lay it all out and impeach

[–] frustrated@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Impeach? Like they already did twice? They are warning us because they know the mechanisms of accountability are not within their reach.

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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

If there are protestors or critics that is even more reason a good president should be listening to their concerns, even if he doesn't agree with them. Not trying to make enemies out of them.

[–] Grandslamdalf@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I wrote an angry text to one of my MAGA senators while really high. I fully expect to be on a list.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Like the entire voter registry of democrats?

What good is a "watchlist" if its 80+ million names long?

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's fine, they'll start crossing off names until it is a manageable.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Palantir was built to do this, and does so instantly, nothing to develop - the tech is built.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Isn't Ellison promising to spy on everyone, too?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

I think he wants to get into the thought manipulation game.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Netux@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago

Bold of him to call it secret. It's just unpublished.

[–] Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social 39 points 3 days ago
[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Soon they will be marching us to death camps. Get ready the Nazi are in-charge.

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I really hope that all this bullshit shows just how bad many 'anti-terrorism' laws were and see them all be repealed.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

what exactly about this is NEW news?

fuck they probably have me on a watchlist and I'm not even american

[–] J92@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Perhaps a problem is that nobody is surprised anymore.

If you dont jump when a loud noise goes off anymore, you might not get out of the way of what makes it.

Maybe fake it til you make it. Act shocked about it and tell coworkers that you're terrified.

Or just read one of the forefathers' diaries, see if they managed to articulate the tipping point that began the slope towards revolution and attempt to replicate it?

(I'm speaking generally about this situation, I'm not an american either)

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago

Welp, I'm surely on it

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

No one cares, especially the USA citizens. If they really cared Trump would be out yesterday.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Jesus said that if someone asks for your coat, you should give your cloak to them also. IDK guys, that sounds pretty anti-capitalist to me.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

"First they came for the immigrants, and I was like 'yeah, ok, cool,' and signed legislation increasing their powers to detain people (arc), but now they're coming for James Comey and I'm like 'yo wtf'" - Elissa Slotkin (probably)

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I assume no one in the Trump admin knows wtf Lemmy is, so we're safe here maybe.

[–] cashsky@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Slotkin is an AIPAC ghoul that the Dems have been trying to push lately as the "hot new star" as a replacement for Kamala. Would t be surprised is she runs in 2028.

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[–] beveradb@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

How can I get on it?

I assume keeping my phone on while protesting at the next No Kings priest will help, as will posting "fuck you, rapist pedophile corrupt asshole felon Trump" here...

But how can I be sure? 👀

I'm ready to fight but don't really know where to direct my anger

[–] Glifted@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Starting violence is exactly what they want you to do. I'm not saying it's never the right call but ultimately a civil war will be bad for everyone

[–] beveradb@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that's fair. I've been through the ACLU de-escalation training and stuff and won't actively start violence at a peaceful protest or anything, but if I get targeted because of said protesting and end up being targeted by ice (I'm a green card holder, not a citizen) then I'll go down fighting for sure

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Centrists realizing they're getting swept in with the lefties.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 days ago

Just like the middle class learning the uber rich lump them in with the poor

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 14 points 3 days ago

It's not secret that it's happening. Palintir is well known to have the contract to built the list. The secret is who's been flagged as scheduled for termination or deportation out whatever.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

Once again the Senate is a day late and a dollar short.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I had just assumed that the NSA and FBI were already doing that, or will Trump's list be a different, more incompetent one?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If a list is of virtually everyone it stops being a useful list.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It starts being an excuse to disappear anyone you don't like.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

This is the problem. A list you can’t see, a list that contains assumed infractions you can’t defend against, in a system of masked police that will never give you a chance at due process.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 8 points 3 days ago

Not much of a secret...

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Secretly, Americans have been developing a watch on trump.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think you have to warn anyone about that one

About the only useful thing about the American government at this point is for them to tell you information that everyone already knows about.

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