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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

fresh openwashed proprietary license hell just (well as of 2 years ago, but I’m sneering at it now) dropped:

Harmful free-riding is the sort of free-riding that leads to the free-rider problem

[…]

Examples of such goods are public roads or public libraries or services or other goods of a communal nature. Free riders are a problem for common pool resources because they may overuse it by not paying for the good (either directly through fees or tolls or indirectly through taxes).

from the fucking asshats who made Sentry proprietary under the BUSL but wanted an even more nonsensical license:

Sentry started life in 2008 as an unlicensed, 71-line Django plugin. The next year we began publishing it under BSD-3, and ten years later we switched to the Business Source License (BSL or BUSL)

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Examples of such goods are public roads or public libraries or services or other goods of a communal nature.

This is literally railing against the concept of altruism, kill this license with hammers (and sickles)

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That Wikipedia article is cursed:

For instance, in discussions on climate change mitigation, countries with lesser contributions to greenhouse gas emissions might still benefit from global efforts to reduce emissions, enjoying a stable climate without proportionally shouldering the costs of emission reductions.

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[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Its just so tiring. Now a rather prominent KDE dev is also valiantly defending the fashtech flagship projects from being accurately described as fascist.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I scrolled down two toots and found this

dunno this person at all but that’s a pretty telling start

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 days ago

Its a shame really because his video on Lunduke wasn't too bad but as it turns out he is the worlds most laughable centrist.

[–] self@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago

hyprland is not fascist. Ladybird being fascist is IMO very debatable. But on the whole, the idea of having your OS itself tell you not to use software for political reason is not going to work in our favor and, if done in an hyperbolic way like this, it will make the left look really dumb

this charlie kirk saga is teaching me that the left-wing community is roughly just as bad as the right-wing one when it comes to fact-checking and not providing convenient but uncertain possibilities as correct

it’s really weird how this asshole needs us to believe fascists aren’t fascist and keeps going out of his way to talk about how dumb the left is, isn’t it.

for anyone wondering what the rest of the toxicity in the Wayland ecosystem that isn’t hyprland looks like, it’s dickheads like this controlling every conversation and technical decision. if you dig into the accounts this dickhead interacts with, you’ll see plenty of KDE and GNOME profiles clapping along to this shit. Wayland isn’t the way it is by accident.

[–] rook@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fosstodon does not have a good history in this regard. It took some effort to get them to drop a far-right mod earlier this year, and even with a shuffle of leadership they’re clearly all about the centrist acceptance of the right wing and the repeated assertion that tech isn’t political and that all this is just so much drama.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

yep. there’s a couple communities out there that mistake “growth” for “good”, and I get the sense that’s one of the problems fosstodon has. not the only one, mind - other stuff also appears to be impactful. I don’t have enough spoons to make a good thorough analysis of it tho :|

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Guy's also publicly denying the flagship products are fash in the replies (Exhibit A, Exhibit B):

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

AI slop has been discovered in an anatomy textbook (the news originally broke on TikTok, but I discovered this through Bluesky):

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Tag your favorite name for a Star Wars background character. Mine is enodopmisch reticulum.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

Scal-Palin Skywalker, was that the guy 100 years in the future who kept smoking death sticks so Luke's Force ghost would stop bothering him?

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago

To provide some good news for this week, the Fediverse is reporting a spike in users (thanks to David Gerard for finding this):

Whilst accurate fedi stats are pretty difficult to get, I'm inclined to believe the influx is genuine - after the CEO Meltdown on Bluesky, its clear people are jumping ship.

[–] corbin@awful.systems 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Obituaries are being run for John Searle. Most obituaries will focus on the Chinese Room thought experiment, an important bikeshed in AI research noted for the ease with which freshmen can incorrectly interpret it. I'm glad to see that Wikipedia puts above the Chinese Room the fact that he was a landlord who sued the city of Berkeley and caused massive rent increases in the 1990s; I'm also happy that Wikipedia documents his political activity and sexual-assault allegations.

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[–] UltimateNoob@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

I did not know how much right-wing media is outrage-farming wikipedia. With AI slop invasion, UK Safety Act nonsense and US government probing I'm getting worried

[–] fnix@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

Aaron Bastani Meets Will MacAskill

🤮

Bastani just laps everything up without any pushback

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And in related news, worldwide ecosystems are already getting perma-fucked by billionaires' repeated and relentless wrecking of our planet for personal gain.

I mention billionaires specifically because the average Joe, the 99% of humanity being told to cut down their carbon footprint and delete emails to save water, is completely fucking blameless in this.

They didn't choose to have car-centric architecture forced on them for the past goddamn century, they didn't choose to have planet-wrecking crypto farms/NFTs forced on them a few years ago, and they sure as hell didn't choose to have planet-killing AI slop extruders forced on them, either.

(Anyways, unrelated hot take of the day: taking responsibility for something you're not responsible for is a moral failing, and needs to be treated as such)

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago

(Anyways, unrelated hot take of the day: taking responsibility for something you're not responsible for is a moral failing, and needs to be treated as such)

wat

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 days ago
[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

hi peeps! just put up the first episode of the podcast that i posted about in last week's thread. it's called odium symposium and it's about historical misogynist or otherwise bigoted texts

the first episode is about stephen leacock:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/pilot-misogynist-141164947

rss:

https://feeds.zencastr.com/f/-mzEK14C.rss

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 13 points 2 days ago (4 children)

and apparently spotify has found a new low

I killed my sub years ago because of the rogan shit along with disliking what they were forcing the product to become (and clearly indicated all of this in the why-leaving input field) but this makes me wish I could kill it even harder

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago

This has been a problem for a while esp with podcast providers, who put ice ads in podcasts and then the podcasts get blamed. (Despite having very little control over it, and the control also often being ignored).

[–] yellowcake@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I’ve been wanting to go back to some sort of DAP full time but I’m not a huge fan of Android being the experience. Anyone got recommendations of a non-Android based DAP so I can cut the streaming services out for good?

I miss my Creative Zen back in 2008.

[–] mirrorwitch@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I just got a cheap-ass Sandisk MP3 player, as part of my efforts to both stop streaming and stop depending on a phone so much when I'm outside. It has an audiobook function which didn't work but after a firmware update it does, mostly. It's not a good device by any stretch but it cost me 20€ and I consume a lot of audiobooks, and it's extremely calming to not be exposed to a smartphone when I read.

On the music side of things the biggest change wasn't so much the devices but getting more into bandcamp, with a healthy supplementation of stuff downloaded from soulseek, torrents, and on a pinch, youtube. I make wishlists of small bands I like and buy full albums on bandcamp friday. Listening to these offline made me able to listen to entire albums again, like in the physical media days, which again I find to be incredibly calming compared to hopping between the same favourites on shuffle.

Spotify actually helped me discover music, both through user-created playlists and algorithmic suggestions. I hear it's all full of "AI"-generated music and lists, though, and I found a much more powerful algorithm to discover music, called "asking people".

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago

Got a couple of these sandisk players for my boys. Theyre solid!

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I miss mp3s being widely available. The lack of easy piracy also coincided with me just spending less money on music at all. (Lot of other factors as well).

However I think some of those other streaming services provide lot better rates per song for the artists than Spotify.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you buy from BandCamp, you get lossless and lower quality audio files. Only really good for smaller newer artists though. Also you can get a seedbox for like 10 dollars a month and then pirating is easier than ever.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago

also Bandcamp Friday (which somehow thank fuck has not yet been killed by the Epic acquisition juggle) exists, and is a further boon to artists

I try to stick to bc a lot but it also has downsides - one of the most notable issues for me is that discovery on it isn’t nearly as good as other things, and I really wish they’d work on it some more, even as I know the impacts and drivers that make it hard to do well

the various kinds of corporate culture capture everywhere just results in a pretty fucking frustrating experience in multiple dimensions in the current year :|

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago

last analysis I saw (which, admittedly, was almost ~2y back now I think) said Apple Music was the best by a pretty wide margin, with the rest falling with lower marks after

probably need to look around for updated data soon

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tangara is an open source project made by a fediverse hardware hacker with contributions from other fediverse personalities. it’s reputedly pretty good, though all the reviews I’ve seen are from other fediverse posters so it may be worth looking at some independent reviews to confirm it’s not just homegrown optimism.

at the risk of going open source reply guy and making a recommendation you can’t follow up on, I’ve had a lot of success with Jellyfin as a media library/local streaming host and the beta version of Jellyfin as an app that lets me stream FLACs on my local network and seamlessly download them onto my phone. a VPN or a Jellyfin library on a VPS can let you stream your stuff almost anywhere in much higher quality than Spotify.

I don’t own a Tangara though I do want one, and I’m fairly sure they don’t support the Jellyfin API yet, but if you end up missing a more Spotify-style listening experience then it might be worth inquiring if there’s any Jellyfin client projects in progress.

[–] misterbngo@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can speak for the tangara, lovely hardware but it is an mp3 player first and foremost. the hardware is technically capable of network stuff but their software stack is mostly focused on recreating that iPod experience and keeping the battery life to days of playback. It does take some getting used to if you've been living in musical algoworld for a minute

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago

I miss my old Sansa Fuze running rockbox and absolutely wouldn’t mind a new device in that class

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago

I fell off Spotify years ago and never subbed, nice to see I made the right call.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I feel that if you are an USian who thinks that accepting US government contracts has become morally incorrect then fretting over swedish audio streaming companies is a waste of your time.

edit: free market solutionism as a response to having a dollarstore sturmabteilung running the streets in the USA just rubs me the wrong way. Sorry if the original post reads a bit coy, I just feel it would be incredibly cringe of me to make overt recommendations on how to handle things from the relative safety of living in a first world country on the other side of the world.

[–] mirrorwitch@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Swedish audio streaming companies who recruit for ethnic cleansing militia squads, and whose profits are reinvested in "AI" murderdrone arms dealer Helsing.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This wasn't a pro-spotify post, it was a your government isn't something you can just boycott away post.

Like, your taxes are already paying for ICE directly.

[–] mirrorwitch@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's like "there's no ethical consumption under capitalism so I'll get an Amazon Prime subscription" thinking.

You can't boycott away a government, you can't even boycott away a corporation for that matter. That doesn't mean we should just give up and be complicit.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 3 points 2 days ago

Governments are toppled, not opted out of, is all I'm saying.

Also not sure I agree that all consumer activism is inherently in vain.

[–] kgMadee2@mathstodon.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

@Architeuthis @froztbyte if someone built, say, social housing with money from the US government, I wouldn't care who was currently president. Guns guns guns, WMDs and Gestapo recruiting, OTOH 😬
(As long as they deliver, and aren't just lining their pockets, ofc)

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 13 points 2 days ago

I see that wedging Copilot into Excel is going just swimmingly:

Honey, I invested $100 billion in AI, and all I got was 1 + 2 + 3 = 15

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

this has been previously sneered on, but only now i've clocked this: AI2027 is another name for, or elaboration* of "san francisco consensus", from april this year or so, "named so because everyone who believes in it is in san francisco", more precisely timeline roughly matches and it hinges on iterative self-improvement

* which might just mean it was laundered through chatbots to bulk it up initially. what i mean to say is even openai's dooming might not be original

so if anyone's counting then this thing is a couple of months older

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago

a very “oh no. anyway,” kind of post

turns out the rest of the owl is the hard part! what a surprise!

[–] nfultz@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Apologies in advance for the infohazard

Tucker - Every Tech Billionaire Is Having the Same Haunting Vision. Demonologist Explains Why

Nick Land Responds to Tucker Carlson

WTF. how is he going mainstream.

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LAND: I mean, I'm obviously skeptical of the fact that large chunks of Silicon Valley are engaged in occult rituals involving involving a numogram. But I mean, it's not something I guess I have any authority to to talk about. Well, I mean, I can only say that they they certainly aren't in contact with me if if that is happening. They're they're doing it very, you know, if not privately at least. It's my involvement is is actually zero in that.

[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago

Insert gif of lemurs here.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The $10K Existential Hope Meme Prize: A celebration of creativity, optimism, and big-picture thinking.

And none other than friend-of-the-pod Steven Pinker is a judge!

(Via)

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Nothing screams "celebration of creativity" like a nice heaping tablespoon of AI slop images.

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