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Until this article I wasn’t sure how big the AI bubble is…
But seeing that more than 99% of the public don’t really use AI and then comparing that to tech stocks makes me sure the bubble is just like in the 2000s
Of course some stuff will stick just like in the 2000s but with these high valuations and 99% of people not using it, it will take a long time till break-even
It's almost like telling asshats that they're right all the time is, somehow, not good for their social-emotional development. Who would'a thunk it!
Worse when your wife calls it her best friend.
That's rough buddy
10 years ago I would have been the one who wanted AI. I love Sci fi and futuristic things. But seeing how it's abused and the devastation it is doing to the planet? No.
And it's just not reliable unless I am desperate when it comes to helping my kiddo with math.
I imagine that this might be the kind of thing someone would talk about in couples therapy.
can you provide more context?
My wife uses Chat gpt constantly. She said it as a joke but she knows how I feel about AI. I detest it, refuse to use it, and am teaching my 10 year old to do things without.
ah. :-(
In other news water is wet.
The only thing that drives me to AI is the extreme uselessness of modern search engines. This is not an endorsement of hallucination engines as much as it is a condemnation of late stage enshittification of search engines and the internet in general. I miss the days when I could google something and actually find what I was looking for.
It's not perfect, but https://udm14.com/ is at least an improvement. I found it too tempting to read the AI answer that pops up right away and is often wrong.
... the search engines became crap because of ai
Plus, ai just lies. It's not a replacement
Shitty search has been a problem longer than ai
If your definition of ai is only LLMs, sure. But it's been algorithmic tweaking and SEO wars for a while now.
Well yeah, llm garbage is the problem being discussed. Do you consider SEO to be ai? I don't see why you would.
And? Wait… is this not universally known?
if you post a thread about intolerable dickheads, the most intolerable dickheads on Lemmy will post some shit like “intolerable dickhead checking in, how fucking dare you”
it’s like catnip for the Reddit-brained, and by catnip I mean meth
I haven't met that many dickheads here though, maybe one or two, but not as many as reddit.
Unless I'm the asshole.
they tend to disappear from here rather quickly
Sometimes they file reports against regulars, accusing them of "ableism" for being anti-slop-machine. That's also entertaining.
Some people will go as far as to call you racist and genocidal if you express dislike for slop machines
inconceivable!
We hope they enjoy their Fediverse(tm) experience here at Awful
There's a term for being anti-ai slop? Hahahaha that is hilarious!
Edit. That term is against those with disabilities. I agree that that's a dick move. Are they claiming that by hating ai slop, we are against those with disabilities? I'm feeling like I missed something. They can't mean that, that's idiotic. Like... Idiocracy level.
Interesting. Why would more manipulative people and ones with more focus on self-interest use AI more than other people? Because they're more likely to take shortcuts while doing stuff? Or is there any other direct benefit for them?
My completely PIDOOMA take is that if you're self-interested and manipulative you're already treating most if not all people as lesser, less savvy, less smart than you. So just the fact that you can half-ass shit with a bot and declare yourself an expert in everything that doesn't need such things like "collaboration with other people", ew, is like a shot of cocaine into your eyeball.
LLMs' tone is also very bootlicking, so if you're already narcissistic and you get a tool that tells you yes, you are just the smartest boi, well... To quote a classic, it must be like being repeatedly kicked in the head by a horse.
increasing number of social media responses which come across as they think they're giving clarifying orders to a chatbot
I imagine there are a few reasons. An LLM is a narcissist's dream--it will remain focused on you and tell you what you want to hear (and is always willing to be corrected).
In addition, LLMs are easy to manipulate, and sort of mimic a person enough to give you a sense of power or authority. So if you're the type of person who gets something from that, there's likely a draw to that kind of person.
Those are just guesses, though. I don't use LLMs myself, so I don't really know.
I'm just spitballing here, but I suspect it's for the same reason people with "dark triad" traits (narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy) are more successful in business and politics than the average person.
Dark triad types give quick, confident, and persuasive answers, and aggressively challenge anyone who disagrees with them. But they don't actually care if the answers are true as long as they can win the debate or argument they're having. This lets them be totally confident and persuasive in any situation - whether they know the answer or not - and so demonstrate more "leadership skills" than people who are less willing to bullshit.
Same with policies - a dark triad type is going to confidently and aggressively support policies that make him look good or benefit him personally in other ways. He doesn't actually care whether they are good policies or bad policies, whether they'll be good for the organization or the people or not - the dark triad type will lie, cheat, or steal to make sure his policies look successful, get himself promoted upwards, and blame his successor for the long term failure of the policy.
(If you were a dark triad type, you might, for example, enact policies that crash the economy and drive inflation through the roof while making yourself and your cronies incredibly rich, then cancel all the reports that track inflation, hunger, unemployment, etc, to conceal the impact of your policies, and go on a social media blitz claiming the economy is better than ever and any problems are someone else's fault. Just as a hypothetical example.)
I'm kind of not surprised people who care more about persuasiveness than honesty, and more about results than processes, would find AI tools appealing.
I would think because ai is basically just a yes man they can get instant gratification from. Easier to manipulate than a real human, when they're wrong, you can berate them without year of pushback.
As a certified bullshitter myself, I often find myself really annoyed with llms because their bullshitting is just so obvious
science shows as true what you thought was only 99% true
Still a way higher accuracy than LLM output, so...