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A Boring Dystopia

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Cool, cool cool cool. Nothing dystopian about that at all.

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[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 24 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Like, they've been able to do this for 25 odd years.

There were gov data centers with thousands of petabytes when I was in college. Prism had the gov archiving every phone call and all internet traffic back in '08...

This is not news.

As soon as the quantum cryptography tech gets there, they'll start decrypting the signal and matrix chats you had yesterday.

Privacy is illusory and temporary.

[–] DSN9@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

The ~~stasi~~ government would never use my data against me. I've got nothing to hide. Hey I think I'll go buy this doadd for no reason at all no subliminal advertising

[–] scathliath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Fuckers should help me restore my old academic portfolio then. Might as well put living in a dystopian surveillance state to helpful use.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 12 points 6 hours ago

It seems like these sorts of things can be used against you, but whenever it might actually benefit you they always come up short.

[–] Angelevo@feddit.nl 3 points 5 hours ago

Q. uell. Sur....... prise ~

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 33 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they also have access to banned Reddit accounts whose users can no longer access their history to know what they will be judged and profiled for, too.

Just assume every social network either allows this directly or enables a third party to do it, Lemmy specially.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Lemmy is explicitly public. I don't think that's much of a stretch.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 31 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

Remimds me of when everyone was deleting their posts around the API blackout and suddenly the next day it was like Reddit did a restore from checkpoint and all of the edited posts and deleted posts came right back. I for one had to run the script that replaced then delete my posts twice, but that's besides the point.

[–] dontpanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Same, but then a bunch of mine popped up again sometime in the last few months. Not exactly sure when, and it wasn’t all of them.

I didn’t run the replace script tho, I wish I would’ve.

[–] PDFuego@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Did they actually come back or did a bunch of comments not show up in your profile because the subs were private so they didn't get deleted, then they reappeared when the subs reopened? I thought some of mine were restored too, but it was a combination of that and the tool I used only hitting the most recent 1000.

[–] dontpanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 hours ago

Not a bad guess, and it’s always possible there may have been a handful for which that were true, but no. The bulk of them were from subs that have been public for years and continue to be. I’d been at zero comments for pert near 2 years? A bit more. I would check every now and again after they all came back early on. Then suddenly I noticed a few thousand were back, all from 2011-2014 or thereabouts.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago

Indeed, replacing the posts with irrelevant jibberish was the way

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[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago

Probably the Pushshift archive which is publicly downloadable.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Once you put anything on the public internet these days, it will be harvest by corporations and used against you eventually

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

I think we all should keep speaking up.

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[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 15 hours ago (10 children)

As a software engineer I was a little shocked when I learned our company treats “Delete” buttons as a means to toggle Archived = 1 in the DB. Nothing is actually deleted. Sure we will anonymise the data after a certain time to be GDPR compliant but it would be trivial I guess to actually link that back to people.

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 20 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure GDPR requires websites to abide to user requests to delete their data. You may wish to review that with your company.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

There's no independent audit for GDPR compliance so the only way to know would be if someone whistleblows. There are also so many loopholes that allows to keep the data like "to prevent further abuse" or "some legal reason".

So if reddit bans your account they can keep all data and you can't do anything about it even with GDPR.

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

The org i used to work for had to develop a special process to delete user data upon request, it was not an easy process in dynamics365

if you want something deleted you best destroy the hard disk yourself lol

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[–] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 11 points 12 hours ago

For some time now, I have written stuff on the internet under the assumption that one day, my identity will be publicly tied to everything I wrote. Surely in the future it will be easy to give an example of my writing to an AI bot, perhaps combined with some facts about my life, and the bot would be able to find anonymous posts that were likely written by me, across the internet.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 96 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

People apparently don't know about the NSA Utah Datacenter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

Been a thing for over a decade, unimaginable total storage size, and they literally archive everything.

This place had between 3 and 12 exabytes of storage capacity, in 2013.

1 exabyte is 1 billion gigabytes.

How big was your pc/laptop hard drive in 2013?

Maybe... 250 gigs to 2 teras, something like that?

This data center could now easily be in the yottabyte range ( millions of exabytes ), maybe even ronnabytes ( billions of exabytes ).

https://www.rankred.com/largest-data-centers-in-the-world/

6th largest data center in the world by physical size, and it is the only one on this list explictly designated for 'national security'.

The NSA has taps on every single major trunk line going in or out of the US, they coordinate with every major US-based ISP, every major software provider, data center operator.

They have so much archived data that their actual problem is figuring out how to search through it efficiently... and that is a big thing that Palantir does, that was kinda their whole intitial... thing, as a company.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

When people were up in arms about China getting data from TikTok, I wondered if they had any idea of what the NSA does.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 hours ago

When that was going on, the whole time I was saying that if we ban Tiktok for data security reasons, we should ban Facebook and Instagram for exactly the same reason, and yes, we should ban basically all social media at this point, its all a perfect spying machine, one you get addicted to, beyond hiding in plain sight...

Of course, that's extremely unlikely to happen... but it is an actually consistent position.

[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 35 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I came here to make this comment less cogently. You have it exactly.

Now, does it violate US law and multiple Executive Orders to search the database to get dirt on US Citizens and use it against their election campaign? Yes. Yes it does. But this administration thinks laws are for sissies.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 5 points 12 hours ago

I'm still a bit skeptical Palantir would expose this capability over a Senate race which hasn't even gotten through primaries. I haven't looked into it that much, but I think it's far more likely there's something on the accouny which makes it easy to identify, and someone this dude knows figured it out before he deleted that account.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

And this was always the problem of building the panopticon, everyone justified doing it by saying 'well, its fine so long as the good guys are in charge', and 'we have to stop the terrorists, 9/11 Never Again'.

This is why the panopticon system is destroyed by Lucius Fox after using it to find the Joker in the Dark Knight.

The system itself is too dangerous to be allowed to exist in a world of flawed humans, and it will eventually be wielded by those least morally qualified to wield it.

Fuck, this is also basically analagous to the Lord of the Rings... Frodo is the hero for destroying the One Ring, not wielding it, because it literally corrupts you with its literally evil power.

God damnit.

[–] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago

No wonder that guy didn't understand One Piece

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[–] starrysonics@lemmy.today 5 points 11 hours ago

Well, I'm cooked.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So like internet archive? oooo spooky

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago (7 children)

The scary dystopian part is the ability to work out that the account belonged to someone who hadn't used it for a decade rather than just that they could see what had been posted. The Internet Archive doesn't let you ask it what someone's Digg username was.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 22 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure Palantir would help Democrats find stuff on NAZIs ... right ? Right ?

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

The guy in the photo with the nazi tattoo is a democrat lol

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago
[–] Saarth@lemmy.world 53 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (7 children)

There are dedicated tools, called Social Listening tools that do just these. Some examples are Brandwatch, Sprinklr, Talkwalker and Meltwater.

Not just Palantir, anyone and everyone is using these tools. From consumer companies to investment banks to your favourite content creator is using some kind of social listening to stay on top of trends and understand how you behave.

Reddit and Twitter are two social platforms that provide the most data openly and freely, and in reddit's case you can get a lot of historical data without extra cost.

Your favourite candle brand, and your favourite outdoor clothing company and protein shake company is part of your favourite reddit community listening to what you're talking about. They know if you like energy drinks, you might light heavily scented bath soaps too.

Deleted posts show up on these platforms quite often but when you click on them to go to reddit or twitter you'll get a not found or deleted page.

PS: I've been working in social listening for last 8 years.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 44 points 20 hours ago (9 children)

Why are you doing evil work..? Like... Why develop these tools that will so obviously be used to worsen our lives?

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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 33 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Could you stop enabling the police state, please?

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 91 points 22 hours ago (8 children)

Yes I too can use web.archive.org

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