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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 79 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is just "both sides are equally wrong/bad."

[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Idk about equally, but often enough, both sides are indeed wrong.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago (6 children)

"Enlightened centrists". I make fun of you people constantly.

[–] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

There are leftists that get things wrong

[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

It makes you look stupid tho

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[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Maybe I’m too naive, but I didn’t think they were referring to just politics. They were just referring to two people arguing.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You know, I think you're right. I'm so used to the phrase "both sides" meaning a specific thing it didn't register as anything else. If it had been phrased "both sides of an argument" I would have understood.

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[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Why are y'all in the comments trying to act like one or another universalist position has to fit like a sock to all situations? There are debates where one side is blatantly wrong and the other is blatantly correct, debates where one side is wrong and the other has some points right, debates where both sides have some points right, debates where both sides would do well to return to school and debates where no side can be objetively correct because they're discussing something intrinsically subjective. The "enlightened centrist" meme is useful to mock the stupid position that "the truth is always in the middle", but if you think you're always going to find someone in any debate who has the right answer, you're going to find yourself siding with stupid shit all the time.

[–] rosymind@leminal.space 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes! Can we pin this somewhere for new Lemmy users to read? I'm so over the right/wrong ONLY attitudes

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It would be better if we taught people to be critical thinkers

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Understanding is a three-edged sword. Your side, their side, and the truth."

[–] Cano@lemm.ee 37 points 2 years ago (5 children)

My side is that vaccines do NOT cause autism.

Their side is that vaccines DO cause autism.

So the truth is that vaccines cause autism sometimes?

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No, Autism isn't caused by vaccines but the risk of vaccines for everyone is not zero. It's just the amount of people affected are in the .00X% or .000X% range.

[–] Cano@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah I know, I tried (and failed?) to be funny

No, you had it just fine. You'll find that an abnormally large amount of ND people hang out on Lemmy though. So many angry comments from people who used to reddit but they're just angrily agreeing with you the whole time. Like... K lol.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You succeeded. Your audience failed to have a sense of humor.

[–] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My side is that many great doctors are autistic, therefore autism causes vaccines.

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Plot twist: Autism is causing vaccines /s

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not even that far fetched. A lot of inventors are thought to have been autistic.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's an xkcd about precisely that observation.

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[–] Johanno@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

No the truth is scientifically proven that they don't(at least those that are certified in the EU)

Your side may overlap with the truth.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Understanding sounds a little more like an M1917 trench knife with its triangular stiletto blade.

[–] neptune@dmv.social 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Learn about one religion and you may become faithful. Learn about many and you may become an atheist.

There's some truth and some idiocy behind this meme. Just because, for example, the US political system tends toward a two party system, does not mean you can always or always not find some amount of truth or good ideas based on what two parties tell you. In fact, the framing is irrelevant toward truth, and is even it's own type of bias. There are certainly some third rails neither side of a debate will touch, or some things both find the need to lie about. But in some cases someone is sort of right about something and sometimes people are just wrong.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Except the right's platform no longer has any aspect of it that's correct. They abandoned the conservative platform ages ago and went full fascist.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Be careful careful about arguing that on lemmy.world. I argued for a bit with a "both sides are bad", eventually called them out for being a Putin puppet, and got my post deleted by a Lemmy.world mod.

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[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not me. I learned about all of them and have accepted them all. It's exhausting.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 2 years ago

When Orion aligns with cup noodle. Ramen, my brother. May Prince Phillip have mercy on your Chūnjié and bless your virgins in Ragnarok.

[–] sus@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

Monke brain see "both sides"

Neuron fire

CENTRIST DETECTED

no further thought needed

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

both sides

wtf did u just say to me u lil bishh

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Can't you just live normally in a filter bubble like the rest of us?

[–] Bipta@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago
[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Why limit yourself to two?

[–] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

Yup my current favorite combo is hexbear and the neolibs at /r/Destiny. Completely ideologically opposed on nearly all issues. I usually side more with the hexbear crowd but they also have their own bubble thing going on

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Fires up the grill

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