No, they're paying attention. They're voting for the fascists on purpose, because they will only hurt the people who they feel deserve it, and then America will be available to the right kind of people.

Also, people who lean left need to get off their asses and vote. About half of eligible voters actually vote, and slightly more eligible voters lean more left than right. If half of those left leaning non-voters voted, imagine how many races would be won handily by Democrats.

To me these are the people who need to be paying attention and doing their civic duty.

I don't mean the 30% or so who are MAGA die-hards. I mean literally every other person who considers voting for Trump.

I don't think anyone is on the fence at this point. If anyone is even considering voting for Trump they agree with at least some of his agenda, which is entirely batshit insane.
If they find any of his qualities or policies even the slightest bit appealing they are part of the maga crowd. There's absolutely nothing moderate about him, there's no room for middle ground.

They don’t care. They just don’t want to vote for a Dem. Since the Dems are commies, devil worshippers or whatever the latest meme that hit these voters’ Facebook timeline tells them to think.

every other person who considers voting for Trump

.....AND those who will vote for a third party candidate

An older relative is here for the holidays and was watching some YouTube yesterday. Somehow, there exists a 30 minute which talked all about what a genius Trump was and how he doesn't like electric vehicles. Just this endless stream of "Donald Trump visionary policies on..." and his brilliant predictions that were all true. No details, references, or a critical thought about how Trump probably doesn't know that there's anything inside the parts of the car he can't see.

Edit - what I am trying to point out is that this goes way beyond traditional news outlets. I don't think this guy watches a lot of news. I do think he considers himself well informed. We are Canadian, BTW. He's into cars (and an incredible mechanic as well as being a generally good person I enjoy spending time with) so this is on his feed.

That part can't completely change simply because the mechanics of it are too fundamental and too blunt. A Presidential candidate who is the front runner for one of the two parties saying they want to deploy troops is news. It's newsworthy. They can't just ignore it and if they did they would be doing the news anymore.

It's the same as all the way back in 2016 - after Trump won the election, the NYT published a lengthy, complicated story detailing his many conflicts of interest which probably took a team or reporters months to do. And on the same day it was published Trump tweeted that there had been "3 million fraudulent votes" (still waiting on the evidence of that btw).

That move drowned out the conflict of interest story by a lot, and more than that - the president elect saying shit like that is actually genuinely news. The news media can't just ignore it.

They've gotten a bit better over the years at dealing with him . Now they'll say stuff like "Trump asserted yet again, without evidence, that he won the 2020 election" instead of just regurgitating his nonsense without context. But them ignoring Trump isn't the answer.

The problem here is that many Americans want this guy as president the first place.

Half of us are being dragged, the other half is pulling us. It's illegal for the ones being dragged to protect themselves from the ones pulling us as we live in a state.

Then there's the leftist non-voters who seem to think that if you don't choose Republican or Democrat we default to peaceful communism.

Oh, the fascists are waking wide-eyed awake straight into it. And they’re dragging the rest of us with them.

I'm wide awake, my heart is pounding, and my vocal chords are shredded from the screaming. Not all of us are asleep. 1/3rd of the country actually wants this.

It's not sleepwalking if we all know that it's happening and are screaming about it, but nobody in power is doing anything to stop it.

sick of this talking point, we're wide awake and the warning signs are all there.

Fucking put him somewhere. Depth is optional imo.

Yes, exactly right. You do not need the /s at all because that is the purpose of 2A.

Not /s, you're exactly right, you should move to the left and be prepared as well.

There's a lot of people sounding the alarm, but it seems liberals still don't believe what conservatives have been straight up telling them for years.

Yes. Now ask if anyone will stop him.

Has that honestly ever stopped Trump before?

Wouldn't be his first time absolutely destroying a valuable money making system with his stupid tiny hands. Everything he touches turns to garbage.

If Trump does this it would destroy the economy.

He's literally already done it once. The Ag sector, especially family farms, still haven't recovered from his blatant mismanagement & immigration screwups.

I'm GenX, and I wouldn't answer a poll if you paid me. I will vote, and I will never vote for a Republican for the rest of my life. If there's no Dem candidate on the ballot for a specific office, I leave it blank so they can see how many votes they're not getting when they don't run a candidate.