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[-] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 10 months ago

This is 100% correct, Truman admitted it too.

[-] funky_tomatoe@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 10 months ago

Do you by any chance have a source for Truman?

[-] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 10 months ago

Idk, the closest quote is that of "“If we see that Germany is winning the war, we ought to help Russia; and if that Russia is winning, we ought to help Germany, and in that way let them kill as many as possible.. . ”

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 10 months ago

Man I wonder why the USSR made the NAP with the Nazis, surely the west wouldnt have turned on the USSR if they had gone to war with nazi germany in 1939 🫠

Of course, libs will deny this till their grave and insist that communism = fascism because of that NAP

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 months ago

The west was about to send a sizeable expedition korps to aid Finland while already at war with germany in 1939.

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 10 months ago

I learn something new about the evil of the west every day lmao

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 10 months ago

That was during the Sitzkrieg period. Germany had already invaded Poland, and thus was at war with France and GB but had not yet begun its march through the beleux states into France.

At that time the Soviet-Finish war was still ongoing. So the anglos and french did the only sensible thing - prepare an army to help the finns. Shortly after, Germany conquered Belenux and France while also destroying the british ground forces in Europe.

[-] mughaloid@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's the same why US and other western countries called for Russia's sanctions and boycott. USSR was in a precarious state. Stalin offered help UK and Europe several times to form a coalition against Nazis. Britain did Munich pact which permanently sealed the fate for the world. The policy of appeasement was very active in these years. That's why USSR had to make a deal out of it. Even Putin agrees with it. Though he has his criticism about Purges in military but he is sure of the Non aggression. Pact.

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 10 months ago

i dont particularly care what putin thinks of the ussr lol he's not a marxist???

[-] mughaloid@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's why he is important, marxists definitely have a bias towards USSR but even anti marxists like Putin agrees on non aggression pact. Why do you think Vijay Prashad quotes his speech from Munich conference?

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Look Operation Pike, UK and France planned to bomb USSR in june 1940 despite being in a war with nazis. They even started gathering forces and the plan was accepted, the only reason it didn't happened was that Germany invaded France month earlier.

[-] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 10 months ago

Let's be honest here: the only reqson the Normandy landings even happened was to (from the view of the "Allies") stop the USSR from going all the way to the Atlantic.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

Is there really substantiation of the last two sentences, i.e. that Nuremburg was effectively a punishment for those who didn't cooperate with America, and those who tried to cooperate were spared?

Yes, I know about Nazis being brought into NATO, UN, etc., but not this particular line on how it was decided who got to live after the war vs who was hanged.

[-] mughaloid@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Majority of OUN members were saved because ahem they closely cooperated with US. Even the NATO founding members.

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