I can taste the irony. Or maybe that's just blood
The last section of the comic kinda hits deep to me because that's exactly what happened once I worked up the nerve to leave Christianity. That was before I noticed the title, which just made it ironic.
I might still be religious if the creationist community didn't exist. I met a lot of creationists in college. It was a mild culture shock. I believed in God and evolution. No issues.
They kept pestering me to look into the arguments. Long story, short: I eventually did. I just kept finding liar after liar. Found the lies didn't stop on at pseudoscience either.
Thank you, creationist community. My life is better now.
There's an old joke that the best way to create an atheist is to have them read the bible cover to cover. The more you know, the less it makes sense.
Same. The denomination I grew up in was adamant that the Bible had to be literally true in its entirety or none of it was valid at all. One I'd convinced myself that evolution was real and the universe was more than 6000 years old, I was like... "Welp, guess I gotta be an atheist now."
Coming from the "I did my own research" crowd this shit is mind boggling. Aren't they the ones disagreeing with the scientific community regularly?
Waking up as a conservative must be like
Oh boy time to look for credible information on Facebook!
They have the horse blinders on and also have the fucking mouthpiece attached that makes them spew the rhetoric they see on headlines of Fox. And don’t you dare ask for any further details because that’s just asking to hear the same headline again
Omfg it's infuriating...
When we had Trump and all the Russian investigations my dad would send me some bullshit fox news opinion article and then I would spend hours going over the actual information from the government, id go over the hearing, I even explained numerous times how this or that individual uses specific words as they have legal meaning from xyz source.
His reply would be another fucking Fox news opinion article.
Remember the study that linked lower intelligence to right wing beliefs?
That's why so many people become way more liberal after they leave home and go to higher education, they literally grow their brain.
Ding ding. Imagine getting objective feedback from peers and experts instead of your immediate family for four years?
Imagine seven years?
Imagine eleven years?
It's Conservatives whose beliefs are founded on feelings, not on objective reality. The proof is that most of them didn't go to college, so they can't possibly be founding their beliefs on something objective.
"Family is the cradle of the world's misinformation."
That's why I am leery of people who live in the same small town all their lives. How can you have any reasonable perspective on others? But you go to university and meet a broad spectrum of people with diverse ideas and backgrounds and you come to realize you don't know very much yet. And you learn. That's why conservatives hate higher education and rant and rave that it indoctrinates their children away from being conservative, it is SUPPOSED to because you are being EDUCATED away from the beliefs of stupidity they hold. Because conservative beliefs are stupid.
It's also why they rant and rave a out policing the internet. It used to be that getting out of your small town and going to ANY type of higher learning like community college or a even some trade schools was enough to grow, learn, and meet diverse groups of people. Now you don't ever have to leave your small town to learn, grow, and be presented the largest collective of diversity ever. It's sitting in the palm of your hand.
Anyone else think a lot of conservatives feel this way?
Yeah, I was thinking this is just straight up projection
Nah, too self aware to be conservative. They've already done their research in the form of listening to half a dozen right-wing commentators. They're all saying the same thing so that must make it true.
"Flaired users only"
How very pro free speech they are!
There was literally a popup that I saw posted on here a little while ago from r/conservative that tells you essentially "this is a conservative safe space, difference of opinion is not welcome, we do not wish to have outsiders try to change our beliefs. This is for conservatives to discuss conservativism."
They're a fucking joke.
Republican projection once again I see. They are nothing if not consistent (and predictable).
"Anyone else think a lot of liberals feel this way?"
/r/Conservative, "Flaired users only."
...
That's the Projection in GOP folks!
They posted about a study on "do your own research" today on Vice. Very interesting read.
Scientists Explain Why ‘Doing Your Own Research’ Leads to Believing Conspiracies https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7bjpm/scientists-explain-why-doing-your-own-research-leads-to-buying-conspiracies
Da bibble is full of the truths I need. There's no smaller seed than a mustard seed, and bats are another variety of bird. Is it the truth, or is it what you've been told you must believe lest ye risk ostracizing yourself from your peers?
I feel projection of right wing levels.
There's no smaller seed than a mustard seed
There might be more to that one than you think.
Here was the only group in antiquity with a different explanation for the sower parable (that it was about physical creation of the cosmos) talking about the mustard seed:
That which is, he says, nothing, and which consists of nothing, inasmuch as it is indivisible — (I mean) a point — will become through its own reflective power a certain incomprehensible magnitude. This, he says, is the kingdom of heaven, the grain of mustard seed
- Pseudo-Hippolytus Refutations 5.4
This group kept describing seeds as being indivisible points that make up all things and were the originating cause of the universe.
Language pretty much straight out of Lucretius's De Rerum Natura where describing the atomism of Epicureanism for a Roman audience couldn't use the Greek atomos ('indivisible') and used the word for 'seed' instead.
In a book widely popular in the Roman empire 50 years before Jesus was born.
In fact, Lucretius's book is not only the only surviving book from antiquity to explicitly describe survival of the fittest being the mechanism by which mutants in nature survived or died off based on adaptation, but specifically used the language of "seed falling by the wayside of a path" to describe failed biological reproduction.
Again, in a book 80 years before a guy allegedly talking about how only what survived of randomly scattered seeds multipled and the seed that fell by the wayside of a path did not. In a public saying that was the only one in the earliest gospel to canonically have a "secret explanation" later on. Why were they so threatened by this saying?
There may have been more to the context around what these sayings about seeds from a guy killed by request of religious orthodoxy leadership were about in a culture where also from the 1st century a Rabbi was recorded as saying "why do we study the Torah? To know how to answer the Epicurean."
Don't just take at face value what cannonical Christianity says with its damage control versions of secret explanations and boring ass nonsense about 'faith growing.'
Don't forget the fact that the Bible requires that any woman who isn't a virgin when married be executed. So, pretty much every republican woman.
If they actually followed the Bible, there wouldn't be any Republicans left.
Conservatives & strawman arguments go together like peanut butter & jelly.
And projection
Can confirm, pb & j & projection sandwiches are the bomb
"Science: two biological genders!"
"Oh yeah? Also science: 3.5 billion years of evolution."
"I don't wanna talk about this anymore, I have a headache."
...and so it goes...
Fun fact: Modern science does not say that there are only two biological genders but that even on a biological level, there is a spectrum. For example, there are measurable differences between the brains of a woman and a transgender man and there are more viable chromosome combinations than XY and XX.
Basic biology: there are 2 genders
Basic math: 15 is not divideable by 4
I'm sure Zach loves his comic being used against him. The gall...
I think the content speaks for itself. It's shit.
But let's talk about the typography: as someone who uses LaTeX, and irrationally hates bad typography, this one seems targeted. Look at the absolute state of the fourth panel! Ewwww. The river--- I just can't!
LOL they keep trying to call their apologia 'research' in order to give it unwarranted respectability
Interestingly, it happens that when you don't know how to actually do research (like, can you interrogate your sources, put them in appropriate context, evaluate what they have to say critically?) you're more likely to land on disinformation sources or feed yourself confirmation bias than you would have been if you'd read what experts have to say on a given subject.
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