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Dating is odd to me. I do not really know what my motivations are. If I actually find someone. What then? What will we do? How different will our relationship be from a regular friendship (besides you know what). And should it be?

Should you be wanting to do other things with your SO then a very good friend?

What I'm getting at is, have you ever thought to someone: "They don't really want a relationship they just want a one particular friend with benefits."

I don't know if I'm rambling over here. But I'm really having difficulty digesting this one.

Edit: The reason I ask is because I'm thinking to start dating again but I don't know my end goal.

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[-] WeeSheep@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago

A good friend (platonic relationship) is someone I can see every day, talk to about anything, and I want them in my life regularly. I personally cannot spend 100% all my time with someone who is just a good friend.

A romantic relationship is a good friend who I can live with and want to share a blanket and cuddle with at the end of the day. It's someone I might want to hold hands with, kiss, or sleep with. It's someone I want to come home to at the end of a good day to share good news, or end of a bad day to make it better.

A sexual relationship is someone I want to kiss and have sex with.

There are overlap. Romantic friends and friends with benefits are pretty common terms. Having a romantic relationship with sexual interest often ends up in bad relationships; I've heard this described as "feels like it should work" or "I loved them but I didn't like them."

[-] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

And ideally, when you find someone that is in all three circles for longer than a honeymoon (or refractory) period, that's the one you marry!

[-] WeeSheep@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Very true! Although honeymoon phase/stage can last quite a while, individuals depending.

[-] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

I think this is all personal preferences, but by default many times with an SO you usually are both building towards a common goal together to cement your future together. Again, I’m sure that’s not the case for everyone but I am just speaking generally.

With a “very good friend” that might not necessarily be the case - but these lines can all get very fuzzy depending on people’s outlooks, perspectives, wants etc.

I probably haven’t given you much clarity here but I also think many people have wrestled with at one point or another in the dating world.

[-] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 17 points 10 months ago

For me: SO (and if they’re not the same: spouse) is more about becoming a team.

With a really good friend, unless you have something very special, you’ll probably not tether your lives together and commit to going through the rest of your days together.

There’s something that happens over time when you have that commitment that really bonds you (so I’ve found). I haven’t felt it with a friend, and the closest I’ve come to it otherwise is with family (though there’s even less commitment between family members, I’ve found).

It’s hard, but it’s also great.

[-] Sarazil@kbin.social 30 points 10 months ago

An SO will align their goals with you. A best friend may find another goal in life and go off on their own. A friend isn't tied to you, and you'd support them if they 'leave' you to seek their own fortune. A partner stays with you and you and they need to find ways to reach your goals together. There's a stability and security to a partner that you don't get, no matter how close your friend is.

[-] TardisBeaker@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

This is an interesting question. My husband is my ONE. Wherever he is, that's home. We are absolutely best friends & more. We share absolutely everything & neither of us ever have to worry about the other one waking up one day & deciding to move on without the other.

I realize I'm lucky. Not every relationship is anywhere close to that. I was married before & lived with others... And I thought the "one true love" stuff & long-term monogamy was complete BS until he & I got together.

But not everyone wants the kind of relationship we have & that's fine too. I have plenty of independent & awesome friends who have great friends, great lives, great hobbies; they adventure, travel, are fulfilled, etc etc all without an SO. Others who are in great relationships but are much more prone to doing things separately, and that's what works for them.

So maybe if you don't have that drive to find that relationship, maybe it's not for you or maybe you just haven't met the right kind of person yet. Your SO relationship can ultimately be whatever you want it to be, provided you find a partner agreeable with it. Best wishes either way!

[-] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

My wife says she got to marry her best friend, and I say that I get to bang my best friend whenever we want.

[-] SwearingRobin@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

In my eyes that distingueshes a "normal" friendship and a life partner is the planning for the future and being a team. You make big life decisions (moving house, career changes, medical decisions) together thinking of the best outcomes for both as a team. You could be a life partner with a non romantic totally platonic friend, but that's usually not the case you see represented.

[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Many romantic relationships evolve more or less into this over time also.

[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

You’re overthinking it. It starts as good friends and grows from there. You don’t have to know how it works right now. Just find someone who you work well with and go from there.

[-] kometes@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

You get a teammate for your battles against the world, and benefits.

[-] Acamon@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I'd say SO generally are like great friends (with benefits), but often, over time you end up doing so much stuff with them that they eclipse any other individual friend. And eventually (especially if you end up living together) they become such a part of your day to day life they can begin to feel like an extension of yourself (or rather, that you're both part of one being) and it's hard to live with out them. I remember laughing at my dad for wanting to phone my mum everyday when he was away on business. I'd be like "what do you even have to talk about? You see each other all the time" But now, if I had a day where I didn't at least message with my partner I'd feel so isolated.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm wondering if you might find these a helpful starting point:

https://breezewiki.com/lgbtqia/wiki/Aromantic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queerplatonic_relationship

(or not, sorry if I'm misunderstanding and just confusing you further)

[-] trowaway4433@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Well, I guess it feels more like, all I have to offer is friendship with intimacy. But not that I don't want to. What I mean to say is: Is not being (or not knowing how to be) a romantic type the same a someone who is aromantic?

[-] Knuschberkeks@feddit.de 8 points 10 months ago

You might be aromantic, or it might just be that you haven't met a person or had the time with a person to develop romantic feelings.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

I don't think I can answer that for you unfortunately, it's something for you to investigate with yourself, and at some point possibly with a potential partner too. There are also aro/ace communities around (sadly the ones on the fediverse seem pretty dead) where you can talk your feelings through with people who are going through a similar experience.

Either way, having friendship and intimacy to offer is a lot, and enough, don't let any social constructs make you feel otherwise.

At the end of the day "relationship" is a pretty wide concept and it includes friendships as well as sexual and other partnerships, and no two are alike (despite what we've generally been socialised to believe - either completely platonic or the hetero-romantic boy meets girl, they date, fall in love, move in together, get married, have kids). What's important is that you find relationships that work for you (and the other person/people involved of course), and the only way to make sure of that is to communicate as openly and honestly as you can with yourself and each other (so for example what you define as a "friendship with intimacy" might qualify as a romantic relationship to some but not to others).

Also - aromanticism, like other orientations, is a spectrum, so you might be greyromantic or demiromantic, which probably only confuses things more (I know it did for me, and so I've never really taken the time to figure out exactly where I fit on the aro/ace spectrums beyond knowing I'm on them), but just know that there are options for you to "try on" and see which fits most comfortably (if any!).

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[-] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago

My wife is different than my friends because we literally live together. All decisions are made with the both of us in mind. As a result, we know each other better than just about anyone else, and that level of emotional intimacy is tough to find anywhere else. Don’t get me wrong, I have a few very good friends as well, but I don’t talk about the same things with them as I do my wife.

Having an honest to God companion to share the ups and downs in life is amazing. The ups are sublime, the downs help us both be more introspective and end up bettering ourselves.

[-] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Intimacy, whether its shared via sex with a partner or deep connection via friendship, manifests much stronger and more complex emotions.

Things you wouldnt care about become more important. Do i have this persons trust, do they love me back, why do they do that one thing with their teeth?!

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 months ago

Well basically love is a form of psychosis where someone becomes the most important thing to you and your whole reality bends around that. You feel a deep abiding satisfaction and comfort just being in their presence or hearing their voice. Your personal identity becomes secondary to your shared identity as a couple and your connection to them is a core part of your emotional state and thought process. Anything that contradicts being with or caring for them is basically impossible to even think. This can be really wonderful or really horrible depending on the circumstances.

[-] ken_cleanairsystems@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 9 months ago

This sounds more like infatuation than love, TBH.

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[-] technomad@slrpnk.net 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's very exclusive and more intimate physically and emotionally than a good friend. That's my interpretation anyway.

besides you know what). And should it be?

We're adults here. You can say the word sex on the internet, and yes.

To me, it seems like you may not be the type of person that feels like they need intimacy. If you want it, however, then that should be ok too. That is a major difference (for many) in people who are in relationships, and people who are just good friends. It's not the sole defining characteristic, no, but a big one none-the-less.

...they just want a one particular friend with benefits

Why can't it be both though? I think there's nothing wrong with that, in my mind. I suppose a big consideration would be if you live together or not, or want to/plan to.

Another thing to consider is that SO relationships are typically seen as more static/permanent while good friends are considered more dynamic/fleeting.

In my experience, relationships (all relationships) are more dynamic than static. Realities of our mortality.

[-] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

We're adults here.

You sure about that?

[-] technomad@slrpnk.net 4 points 10 months ago

Well, maybe not.

#¯_(ツ)_/¯

[-] itscozydownhere@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Your end goal is falling in love

You’ll know when that happens

[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

First goal is finding friends. This sounds like a joke but I'm serious don't force a relationship. Meet people, get friends. If you align, you align. If not, you've made a friend. If not, you've learned what you don't like or learned what others don't like.

Make friends. Make a best friend. Then if a relationship blooms, at least it wasn't forced. You met and found out what you liked before hand.

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[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Opinions vary, but it's my opinion out of all the things two people need to be compatible, friendship is by far the most important. At best sex only lasts, what eight to ten hours, the rest of the time you need a friend. When you are younger, you may be doing it all over the house but when you're older things typically slow down or there may be times when someone is injured, tired, stuck at work, whatever. In those times understanding, compassion, commiseration and cooperation are important. If your partner is your best friend, you're never lonely and you can share things. It's so much harder when you have very little in common with your partner.

Guess I'm rambling now, but this is how I see it.

Good luck to you.

[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Sex only lasts 8 to 10 hours? Are you a fucking Viagra spokesperson?

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[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

It's when there's so much love, the SO becomes family.

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[-] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 9 months ago

You can bone them regularly without making things awkward

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

Clearly you're only friends with boring people

[-] smigao@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

I don't try to fuck my friends hah. I can sit for hours with my SO and not utter a word and just do my shit. I don't have to be on and allowed to be irritable.

[-] nugmeister64@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I'm not sure about you, but the best partner I could ever think of is one that is also your best friend; they are easy to talk to, comfortable to be with, you can joke with them, appreciate the world with them, and generally see them as your best friend, with the layer of also feeling profound physical, emotional, and (possibly) sexual intimacy. You genuinely love each other in the most pure sense of the word and can depend on each other more certainly than anyone else, because you can share anything with them, because they are your closest friend in the world.

However, most of it depends on what you want. Simply think about what you want most in a partner, and then look for that. Are you looking for someone who is also figuring out what to do in their love life? Do you need someone to push you in a direction? You have far more agency in your choices than you think you do.

Perhaps first, you should meditate on what you are looking for before you begin seeking it.

[-] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 6 points 9 months ago

To me, the key difference is just how much you can be yourself around that person, without any feeling of self consciousness or shame. Even with very good friends, there are still things about yourself (physical or otherwise) that you don't let them see.

Also, my wife IS my best friend.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I feel like a good SO is just a best friend with benefits. Someone you can do all the same stuff as a bestie with, and feel the same way around, but you also are sexually attracted and fuck.

[-] morphballganon@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I don't think of relationship types as distinct categories. I view relationships as a many-dimensional spectrum. All relationships fall somewhere on this spectrum. Some are sexual, some have romance, some have shared hobbies, some have admiration etc.

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

allow me to sum up interpersonal relationships between all 8 billion people in one sentence:
you can't

but, in a nutshell... physical attraction is usually important, so is romance... usually a commitment to this person in terms of time and future plans where they become more like family (and maybe eventually actually family if you have kids)

there's such a crazy spectrum of the ways in which people could get along and consider themselves "in a relationship".
every rule or tendency is constantly broken, it escapes definition.
in general, it begins with attraction and flirting, or it's cemented as a friendship...
and, poetically, i'd say it's a relationship when they start to see themselves as an entity, and of course others will see them like that too... a sort of hive-mind develops...
sorta like when celebrity couples get a combo nickname....

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

If you’re wondering this, you might be aromantic. I’m not saying you are, it just strikes me as similar to a conversation I’ve had with an aro/ace friend.

If you already know, please ignore me, but if not, maybe check it out and see if hearing about aromantic experiences can help.

[-] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Obviously relationships are messy and complicated and varied, but generally the big difference is a commitment to a future together. For example, committed partners might pool finances, or have a kid together - the sort of things that you plan on working together on the rest of your life.

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

Can't answer the title question from personal experience unfortunately, but I can say, only you can figure out what your end goal is. Relationships are different with every person. So if you find someone you enjoy their company, you don't need to know beforehand what you want to do with them. It's okay to figure it out as you go.

[-] Devi@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

I think for me, relationships are having a good friend with benefits.

I’ve had a few serious relationships and at the time I’ve felt like they’re the person I want to do things with, not ‘things’, just things.

[-] Bunnylux@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

What do you mean besides you know what, sex is by far the most important thing I want from a partner ... Better make sure you find someone who thinks like you lol

[-] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

I'm not sure I have much to add here other then a little experience. I've had a date tell me "there's nothing there" and realized later that they wanted more than a friend. I am fairly old and have realized that I may not have much to give, romantically. That's fine! But you have to find someone who wants that, also. Myself, I am not really a dater. But if you can see that some people want something more than a friend, more than a friend and sex, you may find where you fit in. I am still working on that. Not easy, but I am also pretty happy on my own. It is good, and healthy, to work on you, and this post is part of that I think. Be well!

[-] anxietea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago

I feel the same way. I still don't really get the difference. To me it just seems like a really close friendship where you officially agree to spend tons of time together.

[-] Oka@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Do you want a relationship, even if it means you're only friends? Does sex have to be involved to make it a relationship?

[-] trowaway4433@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

You're on to something here.

Can a relationship even be considered a relationship if it is just friends? If it can, please explain how that works. I'm not pulling your leg here, I really want to know.

Also, is sex a confirmation of a relationship or just an added bonus?

I know I just answered your questions with questions. But that's why I'm here on no stupid questions.

[-] VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Similarly, what counts as a date?

If I get a bottle of wine, make dinner with and get cozy on the couch with my best friend.. is that a date? Or are we just hanging out? What if we kiss?

I feel like it comes down to intent, and if that intent is shared and understood. Which is why communication is so important in any relationship.

I tend to take my friendships as seriously as my romantic relationships, because, often there is no tangible difference.

I’ve had so’s that were asexual, I’ve had friends I fucked but never “dated”. I’m still friends with most of my ex’s. Sex is sex but the relationship depends on how you define it between the two of you. A label is a label, what matters is that both people feel comfortable with the dynamic and are on the same page as far as what the relationship actually is.

Love comes in a myriad of forms and can evolve overtime, so often living in that grey area. Getting bogged down in trying to label and define what something is or isn’t will just make you rigid when reality comes and you’re in that grey area.

A poster above responded with something about building into a common future which also helps differentiate but can’t really be used as a hard line. I’m actively working into a common future with my best friend and partner but I’m only dating one of them. Devotion, trust, respect, vulnerablity, consistency, and common morals/boundaries seem to be the things I look for when i’m looking at someone I’m considering to be a partner.

[-] derphurr@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

There's no actual definition. People often have all sorts of unconventional relationships/friendships. You have have sexless marriages, friends with benefits, etc.

Typically in general, most people are most comfortable when relationship moves towards having sex it often becomes exclusive relationship (in general, for most people). Some relationships might become exclusive and dating for a long time without sex. Some marriages even are platonic and maybe one or both have sex outside the marriage.

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[-] wren@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

Definitely varies for people, and there is actually a book coming out soon called “The Other Significant Others: Reimagining Life with Friendship at the Center” that you might find an interesting read.

For me, my fiancée is my best friend. Sure we’ve both had best friends before, but the connection was instant and way more intense than with anyone else for both of us. What makes our relationship different than a friendship is that we want to build a life together, we’re a team, we’re each eachother’s top priority, and, yes like most relationships there’s a physical aspect to it, amongst other things. The phrase ‘she’s my person’ really encompasses what it feels like, personally anyway.

If somethings right, you’ll feel it. When you find someone that sparks a connection beyond just friends, you’ll know. And if that never happens, don’t be too hard on yourself and start thinking there’s something wrong with you. Being neurodivergent and on the asexual / aromantic spectrum can make these questions harder, if they apply. Just do what feels right and don’t over think it too much. Easier said than done, I know

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