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edit: lmao how did I mispell her name nobody look pls

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[-] GreenPlasticSushiGrass@kbin.social 41 points 9 months ago

A lot of TNG episodes would have been shorter if she had Troi's job.

Picard: "These fishy-looking ambassadors arrived in hibernation."
Lwaxana: "They're not ambassadors, they're terrorists. They have a bomb."
Picard: "Thanks, L"

Security arrests fishy dudes
Roll credits

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 11 points 9 months ago

It honestly would have made more sense if Deanna Troi was a member of the diplomatic service instead of being the ship's counselor.

It doesn't make sense having the ship's counselor do bridge duty when their time is best spent treating patients, but it does make sense having someone assist the captain by knowing the various treaties and international relations going on.

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

Lwaxana is a treat every single time she's on screen. And sometimes when she isn't.

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 66 points 9 months ago

The best cold intro is:

"Counselor Deanna Troi, personal log, stardate 44805.3. My mother is on board."

Empty corridor with Picard peeking around the corner

[-] MelodiousFunk@startrek.website 10 points 9 months ago

We just watched that one last night after a week and a half of dealing with heavy shit that still isn't done yet. Not really the episode I would have chosen to dip the toes back in after trauma, but that's what was up next. Still a great ep.

[-] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I hope you fair well on your trauma recovery journey.

[-] MelodiousFunk@startrek.website 5 points 9 months ago

Much appreciated, friendly random internet person 🤝

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

The episode where she and Odo are trapped on the elevator is amazing.

[-] kaitco@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

I just watched that one for the first time the other day and it completely changed my mind on her. Just fantastic.

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yesss, it's such a shame that the other Odo-Lwaxana episode (the one where she gets married) is the B-plot of "The Muse".

[-] flatplutosociety@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I don't love most Lwaxana episodes, but that one and Half a Life are wonderful.

[-] Knitwear@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

I had a mug custom made with her on it so I'm not fit to judge.

Does it help that I had Guinan put on other side? idk

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Damnit Jean-Luc, show us the damn mug!

EDIT: they did 😄

[-] kaitco@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

I’d like to see this mug, please.

[-] Knitwear@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Why am I like this

https://imgur.com/a/avF7mLc

I guess they just seem like two Queens who stand outside it all and thus see things more clearly idk

[-] kaitco@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

That’s the most brilliant thing I’ve seen all day!

Granted, it’s only 9:15 here, but still!!

[-] Karjapuskuri@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

It's a glorious mug

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 9 months ago

She can be both. Sometimes the best character is the worst.

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I can see you still have a long way to go. It's ok, I was like you once.

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago

I dunno, I can like a character and think they're the worst. It's likely that I like them because they're the worst.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Like the Badmirals.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 17 points 9 months ago

On my very first watch of TNG, I was so annoyed the first couple of times I saw Lwaxana or Q dominate an episode, but by the end of the series I was cheering every time they showed up!

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago

The Q farewell of Piccard Season 2 is the only redeeming quality of that entire season.

[-] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 16 points 9 months ago

She's a sex pest though, worse than Barclay.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's worse because she's telepathic - she knows the advances are unwanted and makes people uncomfortable, and yet she does it anyway.

On top of that, she's a very important Federation ambassador. People might feel pressured into keeping her happy.

I have a feeling that if she were of a different sex people would view her relentless unwanted sexual advances quite differently.

But I guess "man trying to avoid sexual advances of horny older woman" was seen as being a hilarious role reversal on 90s TV.

She did have some amazing scenes though. She can certainly act when she gets a serious scene as opposed to a sex pest scene.

[-] Doxin@yiffit.net 3 points 9 months ago

I feel like most people would agree she's a terrible person. Makes for a great character in a tv show though because she shakes things up.

[-] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 3 points 9 months ago

Love Majel Barret, hate Lwaxana.

Also, did we have this same conversation a couple weeks ago on telegram?

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Nah I don't have telegram, must've been somebody else I'm afraid :)

[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago

Her demeaning of her daughter too, "little one", grates. She's a narcissist. Reminds me of someone in real life and I'll never be able to get past it.

[-] constantokra@lemmy.one 1 points 9 months ago

I interpret her interactions with Picard a little differently. He might think she's a real pain in the ass, but I don't think she's actually being a sex pest, because they both know she knows there's nothing there. He's not going to be pressured into doing anything he's not interested in, which is something she also knows, and they live in a world where that's not OK anyway. It's a game, and honestly, an extremely gifted and perceptive telepath could cause him any number of problems. This is a man whose experience with people being in his mind was from the Borg. She's certainly found a way to come off as extremely harmless.

[-] antidote101@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Partially negated by her telepathy. Theoretically she can ignore social boundaries in favour of going by someone's actual individual boundaries and hidden feelings/comfort levels.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 13 points 9 months ago

In other words she knows exactly how much she can violate people's boundaries before they'll be uncomfortable enough to do something about it.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The TNG episode featuring Kristen Dunst where Lwaxana falls into a coma, really gave a lot of color to that character.

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 4 points 9 months ago

Yes, "Dark Page". A top five TNG episode for me.

[-] antidote101@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

When I was a kid I hated her episodes, as an adult, I love them.

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