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[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 96 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No one provided any explantion for their vote.

USA, the country where everything's made up and the legal justifications don't matter.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 86 points 10 months ago

Border control is literally federal jurisdiction. It's weird that they didn't just say that.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 57 points 10 months ago

5-4 vote, I wonder what the four's reasoning was.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

Dumbass dickheads is the reason.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

Partisanship. pure and simple.

the five voted- appropriately- as the supremacy clause has already answered the question.

[-] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

"Fuck brown people", probably.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

You're expecting conservatives to be consistent in their reasoning?

[-] kool_newt@lemm.ee 28 points 10 months ago

They're extremely consistent in their actual reasons. It's their stated reasons that vary depending on their political needs.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Just read the decision form the court below.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

No one provided any explantion for their vote.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This story is about the Supreme Court's en banc decision on the application for certiorari, on appeal from the court below which I believe was the Fifth Circuit. The Fifth Circuit tossed the district court's order finding in favor of Texas. The denial of certiorari is the explanation, it means they agree with the reasoning and analysis of the Fifth Circuit. It's very rare for a denial of certiorari to have any commentary.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Ohhh the lower court. "Court below" kind of threw me.

Still, the SCOTUS vote on cert was 5-4 against. Four of them voted for cert, and while that was not the thing I was initially asking about, I do wonder about why they did.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

They are partisan hacks.

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[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

The court below provided the justification when it vacated the district court's ruling. Denying certiorari as in this order is the court saying they agree with how the lower court resolved the appeal.

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Heard in news "it is inhumane" while the governments assisting Israel building a wall around gaza and commiting genocide.

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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago

From NBC:

“The brief order noted that four conservative members of the nine-justice court would have rejected the government's request. They were Justice Clarence Thomas, Justice Samuel Alito, Justice Neil Gorsuch and Justice Brett Kavanaugh.”

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago

This is literally settled shit since the Civil War. They're trying to bring back state law supremacy. Which led to... The fucking civil war.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I say bring it. Finish it proper this time.

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[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

We're almost at the point of nobody cares what the supreme court has to say.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

The SCOTUS has been filled with scumbags since day one, very seriously. They literally caused the civil war and prolonged the great depression. They also gutted the 13th and 14th amendments while deciding that people are militias.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Oh no, one small edit with a huge difference. The people as a whole are the militia. No it doesn't make any sense. But when you gotta get that gun lobby money for your next private jet Caribbean vacation....

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[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 3 points 10 months ago

A People's History of the Supreme Court has good info on the terrible track record of the Supreme Court.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sounds interesting, will check it out.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's an institution that only exists because the other two branches listen. It doesn't have an army or a police force. Even the Marshals technically operate under the Executive branch. If the Legislature and Executive branches both decided to ignore them, then Roberts could whine a bunch, but nothing would happen.

It's there because of respect built over two centuries and then some. They seem determined to throw it away.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Nah the litigants can apply to lower courts for affirmative relief in compliance with the higher court's orders and the judges can issues writs of mandamus to any proper officer requiring the officer to do a thing, the failure of which is remedied by a writ of capias, which is a judicial arrest warrant. Would have to be a whole hell of a lot of local judges, cops, marshals, lawyers, clerks, administrators, etc., who would have to ignore it, before nobody ends up in jail or has their assets seized.

[-] BigWheelPowerBrakeSlider@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah but if the legislative branch doesn't fund it and the executive branch doesn't enforce it, then as my granpappy always said: "a writ ain't worth a shit." Lower courts, judges, lawyers, clerks, police, Marshalls, and even administrators notwithstanding.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago
[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We still let them decide what is and isn't legal. I wish anyone cared that much about what I say.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Well they're about to decide they get to set regulations, not agencies. So that's going to be fun and not at all a giant overreach for power.

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 31 points 10 months ago

Can we just give Texas to Mexico and redraw the border?

[-] lookorex@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure they wouldn't want it either, at this point

[-] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago

Shit, if we threatened to give Texas back, Mexico may just build that wall that Trump promised they would, and pay for it!

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I propose we build a wall around the entirety of Texas and yeet it from the states. Then we can use any federal funds they were receiving to help people move in/out of Texas. They already have their own power grid, I'm sure it'll be fine.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

They wouldn't be able to send their illegals to other states as easily if a wall is build around them tho.

[-] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I live in Texas, and to be honest, I hear more Spanish than English when I walk around town

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago
[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Diversifying the border between 4 states?

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

How is that better? The point is people from Mexico are trying to get into the US, and but getting the services they need

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Man, i got no idea what giving Texas away would solve. I was just pointing out what would happen.

[-] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

"the supreme court of heaven" based on the article thumbnail

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago
[-] hardaysknight@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

With this court? More like a nightmare sequence

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago

Supreme court allows federal agents to cut razor wire Texas

installed on US-Mexico border

Uninstall.exe

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