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[–] _Gandalf_the_Black_@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The term British Isles is, of course, disputed by the Irish.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How about we collective reestablish the name "Albion", then?

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

They had a signpost in the Atlantic saying “Irish Isles” for weeks before we noticed.

[–] onion@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think this chart is out of date

[–] catacomb@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting though as it shows what "hard Brexit" was. Not in the customs union, economic area or council; just yeeted all the way out.

The best part is the voting slip never defined any of it and, if taken literally, the UK would still be in the EEA.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

We’re currently alone in two new zones called “Fucked around” and “Found out”.

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[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just call em all cunts, except for the irish those cunts are cool.

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a Englishman, I can't have you talking down on the Scots. They're the only ones left which are still decent

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[–] Aggravationstation@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OK, looking at this I can now understand why it may not all make immediate sense to someone who didn't grow up here.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And in the US, there’s definitely a subset that believes England means Great Britain or even the United Kingdom.

Same folks that referred to the entire USSR as Russia, probs.

[–] pickscrape@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There are plenty of people in the US that refer to England as "London".

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Using any country's capital as shorthand for its current government is a common form of metonymy to be fair!

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

That’s one of my favorite nyms

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[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The Scots wouldn't agree with this. I've spent a lot of time there.

The Shetlands, Orkneys, Harris and the rest of the Hebrides aren't even mentioned. Haha

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[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

British Isles is not the term the Irish use. Atlantic Archipelago or just the isles is proffered.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Atlantic Archipelago

this is totally the Bahamas. Or Palm Beach condos.

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Well they're just as much in the Atlantic as us so ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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[–] schnokobaer@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Now if someone can tell me what exactly "Britain" is? People say it all the time, like this is the largest statue of a vulva in Britain. Just shorthand for Great Britain, or is it something else?

[–] Diobhal@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just that - shorthand for Great Britain. Easier to use when you don't think it's so great, like if you live in the Republic of Ireland!

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

It's like saying America to mean the United States. Technically America includes Canada and excludes Hawaii. But when people say America they actually mean US + Alaska and Hawaii but not Canada.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Most people not from the UK will use "Britain" as an alternative word for "England".

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The words that ultimately gave us “Britain” have been in use for about 2,000 years, give or take a century or two. Politically and culturally a tremendous lot has happened in the meantime. Which is probably why we’re left with this almost indecipherable mine field.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just stay 'fuck it' and call them all Celtoi.

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

That’s a nice word. I like to use Pritani but might mix it up a bit from now on.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And it doesn’t even include Bretagne.

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Tell me about it. Immigrants? From Britain? Taking over (culturally) a foreign land. You couldn’t make it up. I once witnessed some drunk Bretons speaking to some drunk Welsh in their respective languages… and “kind of” understanding each other.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

FYI "British Islands" isn't a specific name whereas all the others are

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[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This chart: "England, Scotland and Wales are in Great Britain"

Wight, the Scillies, Anglesey, Sheppy, Anglesey, the Shetlands, the Orkneys, the Hebrides, and thousands more: "Are we a joke to you?"

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think Sheppey is a joke to everyone including the people that have to live there.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

None of those are in Great Britain, because they are islands and therefore not part of the island of Great Britain.

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[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren't those all part of one of the other three? The orkneys and Hebrides are part of Scotland.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's my point: they're all part of England/Scotland/Wales, but they aren't part of Great Britain.

[–] primal_buddhist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I think if you are a part of those three then you are automatically part of GB

[–] incogtino@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

This is a good way to distinguish the terms. I wonder if there is a good colour scheme to also indicate the nation states as district from the landmasses

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Can someone do one for terminology? Is calling people British mainly socially acceptable? I imagine the exception is the Irish from Ireland, but those from northern Ireland may give that a pass?

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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Huh, is that the old Jersey?

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yup. Though original is probably the better description.

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

The new jersey is extra crispy

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[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

and the Original Guernsey (not to be confused with the new one)

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