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[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago

One of the most ultimate proofs against God for me actually. That right there is one of the single most pure human beings this planet has ever known and he was rewarded with cancer.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Meanwhile, Donald Trump is already 4 years older than Fred Rogers was when he died.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Maybe it proves there is a god and he's an evil motherfucker?

Although I would say an indifferent universe is the culprit.

[-] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

God giving little kids cancer is proof enough that religion is all bullshit.

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[-] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago

Mr Rogers was a muhfuckin treasure. Stood before a hostile congress and won them over with sheer wholesomeness. PBS would likely not exist without that landmark testimony.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

What sucks is if he made that same testimony today most of Congress would probably tell him to fuck off.

[-] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 27 points 10 months ago

Fox News literally called him evil.

[-] sfbing@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

So -- I had to check that out, so that I can use it. Here's a citation, or at least a corroboration:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-fred-rogers-evil/

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

It's wild, an actual minister who dedicated his life to teaching compassion and empathy, evil. That really does tell me everything I need to know about them. I grew up on Mr. Roger's, like others have said, the man was a Saint. They knew what they were saying was a lie. They're propagandists, projecting again; they're the evil ones.

[-] Halasham@dormi.zone 2 points 9 months ago

To me this is wholly unsurprising. That the mouthpiece for the party most for the suffering of Humanity as a whole would demonize an effective force for empathy, kindness, and humanity. Just one of many cases of accusations on their parts in place being confessions.

[-] Godnroc@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Consult the special interest group lobbyists and then tell him to fuck off for the good if the children.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I wish he won them over. He beat them. They couldn't well vote against it after his testimony could they, otherwise everyone would have known then what a bunch of trash conservatives are.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago

that's the difference between preaching faith, secularism and atheism.

Mr Rogers is secular, on his show while being a preacher in a church. Secular things don't haveto be atheist; just be presented in a way with no requirement of relying on a particular religious faith.

[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Hey, you’re not supposed to have well reasoned, subtle thoughts here.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

Everything you need to know about Fox News can be summed up by watching the clip of them calling him evil. Mr won’t you be my goddamn neighbor is an evil person in their view, and that’ll teach you to recognize screaming hot projection.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

I've never seen that clip, and now that you've told us about it, I never want to.

I don't want to get that angry if I can avoid it.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

First time I saw it I was incensed, now it’s just my reference for anytime people bring him up. I have a lot of right wing family….they are yet to be convinced. If you’re not sold on being a good neighbor, then that’s on you. That man and his sweaters are gospel

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 10 months ago

If ever there was a salesperson for Christianity. It's possible to be a Christian and fully understand that they're just stories, not real. The religion is the adherence to being generous, kind, and patient.

[-] Zealousideal_Fox900@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

and LOVE THY FUCKING NEIGHBOR.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The one with the coal rolling pick-up truck, the don't tread on me flag waving, and the "I'm looking forward to shooting intruders" sign above the front door?

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 23 points 10 months ago

Yes, actually. That's the whole point of Christianity.

[-] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

And forgiveness for...well...NOT being such.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you build it, they will come.

Build a life of character, love, compassion, kindness, and respect, that is. And we still admire the man for his teachings.

Unfortunately religions build power structures for control, wealth, exclusivity, hypocrisy, and repressive dogma. That's why people are leaving.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 14 points 10 months ago

Proud to be from the same tiny little town as this GOAT.

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Holy shit, never thought I'd see a neighbor here!

I share a hometown and a birthday with him!

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 11 points 10 months ago
[-] dipshit@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Won’t you be my neighbor?

[-] OpenStars@startrek.website 13 points 10 months ago

You don't need to invoke the name if you are living out the concept for all to see.

The Bible has a phrase: judge by the fruits - and it works for Trump the same as it does Rogers.

e.g., look at how George Lucas treated Star Wars (even before Disney bought it, though notably he's the one who sold it to them) and what happened to that franchise, whereas Gene Roddenberry creator of Star Trek was a god among men, leaving an enduring legacy long after he died.

i.e. it's not the source, it's the message that is worthwhile (yes that's also there too - Isaiah 55:11:-P).

[-] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago

He was an absolute treasure.

You have to skip the pretzel factory episode for the meme to hold though - they go into the whole history of the christian origin

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

He built a whole imaginary town for kids to feel their feelings, we’ll give him one free god pass

He’s a treasure no matter your denomination

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

This is a description of what happens in that episode:

Fred Rogers' religious foundation becomes apparent in this episode as he hears an explanation of what a pretzel represents: Originally, pretzels were "given to children for knowing prayers" in Germany. As they are made, pretzels are first shaped "like a great big U. Take one [side] and cross it over the other. This is to represent children's arms praying to God. Then we take one and fold over the other. That represents your parents -- mom and dad. We pick up the ends and fold them on back." When Mister Rogers asks if there always has to be three holes in a pretzel, he is told that the three holes represent the Holy Trinity.

It sounds to me like religion is discussed, but no one is told what to believe. Just why a pretzel is that shape. It doesn't seem especially different than hearing any other myth. I'm guessing that little kids might want to know why a pretzel is the shape it is and that is the reason.

I wouldn't count it at teaching kids about anything but why a pretzel is a pretzel shape.

[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

A real Christian!

[-] 65gmexl3@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I had no idea who this person is until i saw this post. And i just found out there's a movie out there played by Tom hanks

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

If you aren't American or are younger, that isn't all that surprising. To those of us who grew up in the U.S. in the 1990s or before, he's the reason why some of us still have some empathy left in us.

[-] WhistlingGhost@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

"Won't you be my neighbor?" I still love Mr. Rogers so much, he is one of the main reasons I still hope for some form of an afterlife... I want to hug that man and say thank you a million times.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I honestly wonder if the increased sociopathy of today's world would phase him.

There are charter schools around me that literally advertise how they teach kids NOT to befriend people who can't help themselves (Challenger Schools). Like as a selling point.

https://www.challengerschool.com/newsroom/individual-rights-setting-students-success

[-] Mannimarco@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

You know, I already had very little hope for humanity without knowing these horrid places exist

This shit is absolutely sociopathic, jesus fucking christ

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Their radio ads are worse, but I couldn't find a link. Little kids talking about how they learned they only want friends who are "self-sufficient."

It's literally brainwashing kids into aspirational sociopathy.

[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Unholy fuck

[-] nybble41@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

There are charter schools around me that literally advertise how they teach kids NOT to befriend people who can't help themselves (Challenger Schools).

I'm seriously not seeing how you managed to get that out of the page you linked. It says, as an example, that they won't force their students to pretend to be friends, because they should be able to decide that for themselves. It doesn't say that they instruct them not to be friends or in any way discourage genuine friendship.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

As I replied to another, their radio ads are even worse, and have little kids that don't know what they're saying saying point blank they learned they only want friends who are self-sufficient.

Basically a sociopath factory.

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