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Participation trophy monuments lmao
If the confederate monument was installed in the 19th century, I’ll hear the history argument.
If it was installed as an overtly racist response to civil rights movements in the 20th century, that shit is racist as hell and needs to disappear from public lands.
Nah. Tear 'em all down. The history can be left to the written word, detailing how they got destroyed. They don't deserve any monument trying to extoll their "glory". Rubble-ize them and put up memorials to the slaves in their place.
A collage/university in the UK (unfortunately can't remember which one) dealt with a similar problem well. It had statues of the founders out front. Unfortunately, they made their money from the slave trade. There were calls to destroy the statues. They instead, moved them to a small, half forgot garden in the back. As well as their original descriptive plagues, some more were added, explaining how they made their fortunes, and the various moral failings we now see in them.
It seems to me like this struck a good balance. It acknowledged the good they did, while emphasising the bad. Failing to recognise both good and bad can occur in individuals is often how history can repeat itself.
In short, don't destroy them. Instead, stick them at the back of a museum to the horrors of slavery, half forgotten, except for their crimes.
I like this approach, if we destroy the physical object, the history books will have less impact for future generations.
Add info about what horrible things they did, remove them from their place of honor, and put them in an alcove of shame.
No. Preserve them in museums as a reminder of what can happen.
History should never be destroyed, but that doesn't mean it has to be celebrated.
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I vote we melt them down and recast them into statues/memorials for civil right's people. at least the bronze ones.
maybe even southern civil right's people.
Your monuments don't matter you fucking losers.
- a northerner
*Edit monuments not moments lol
Couldn't agree more
~a Texan
The Daughters of the Confederacy can eat shit.
Oh, hell. I'll link to it again. Fuck the South.
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I wish I saved that meme I saw responding to "confederate statues are my heritage" with "destroying the confederacy is MY heritage"
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Hey Corey, your monuments don’t matter.
Sure is weird how these people are obsessed with being traitors and also think they’re patriotic.
"thE PArtY oF LIncoLn" waves the flag of his enemies
- these fucking idiots.
It's hilarious to me that redneck conservatives love to wave the flags of the Confederacy and the Nazis - the recipients of the two biggest beatdowns in US military history. Losers in every sense of the word.
Look up " The Daughters of the Confederacy". The monuments aren't even historic.
Well the are historic in that they're a part of the history of oppressing black people that continued after the Civil War. But doesn't seem like history someone in the South should want to celebrate.
Which Southern monuments?
The loser ones dedicated to the slavery loving losers who fought and LOST against the u.s.
Is yankee offensive? I am british and have called americans "yanks" for the past 10 years at least... Should i stop or is it ok?
It's only offensive to people from the southern US, but they're offended by a lot of things so who cares?
Nah. It can be used derisively but isn't in and of itself offensive. You're ok. Good on you for asking though.
Confederate-wannabes can try to use it as an insult but that doesn't really work. I take it as a point of pride over them.
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I think you are okay, guvna.
You should keep doing it. It's funny.
Not offensive, but others may feel differently.
Meh, in Tennessee a local bar has the Confederate battle flag on the wall and I have heard in there several times that all Yankees should be shot, referring to anyone from the north. The issue is that people have moved around so much there are from the north in the south and vise versa. New York and California are the most hated states by many southerners.
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It is used in Latin America as well as a serious denonym/gentilic. Though it can be used derisively, I'm assuming it's the same over there.
In Australia the term is ‘Seppo’. Seppo / septic tank / yank.
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Hey, us white people have suffered, too - like, they took away our slaves!
Imagine you go back to the 1860s and you see a cohort of this capacity start something. No wonder they got their arses kicked.
I wish I could filter rage bait like this off my dash
Participation trophies, don’t they hate those?
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