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[-] TheFerrango@lemmy.basedcount.com 108 points 9 months ago

They also said they were still committed to Zune and Windows Phone.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 19 points 9 months ago

They probably weren't lying then or now, they are committed... for this quarter. When they read the numbers next quarter, well that's completely unrelated to today's commitments!

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago

The writing is on the wall here, and it's plain to see. Also, you really can't trust anything that comes out of Phil Spencer's mouth.

If the goal is indeed for Xbox games to be on all platforms, then the Xbox platform is the only place they don't make money. Super low third-party sales, zero first-party sales. Only gamepass subscription money, which can't pay for all of their company buyouts, never mind paying off the 65 billion actiblizz purchase.

If gamepass is everywhere, then Xbox has no value to Microsoft, it only harms them.

It also exists to weaken any argument they might have to get governments to forcibly allow Microsoft stores on other platforms like the eu apple ruling.

[-] ripley@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

It doesn't even matter if Gamepass or Xbox is currently profitable or not. It's about whether it can be more profitable. They originally thought the path to that was through exclusivity - now they don't (just as Sony changed course in regards to putting stuff on PC). Anyone who thinks that corporate decision-making is ever based on anything else is being naive.

The practical concern here for me is at what point does MS find it most profitable to stop supporting my ability to use my accumulated physical and digital xbox software. Another reason walled gardens suck.

[-] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Microsoft with gamepass (and other large game companies) are trying to do the gaming industry what Spotify did to the music industry. Blow the bottom out of it, get consumers used to subscriptions where money goes to massive companies not the artists actually doing the work, and let it all collapse into a heap so execs can do whatever they want because workers in the game industry have zero leverage left to dictate a higher quality of life since the path to profit has been carpet bombed by the finance industry (you don't want to work for Microsoft or Sony? Oh sorry yeah nobody else can make money in video games so tough luck finding a job somewhere else).

Why now? Well unlike the movie industry, video game nerds have a stunted awareness of the value of unions and worker organization so in plain daylight the rich can drive the entire industry off a cliff, fire a huge percentage of the workers and try to replace them with AI.... and worst comes to worst those companies will be in a great position to demand whatever they want from the remaining human labor after the dust settles even if the AI crap doesn't work.

Good old Disaster Capitalism.

[-] esc27@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Windows is everywhere but the Microsoft Surface products still have value to Microsoft. Or for that matter, Steam is everywhere but Valve still made the steam deck. There seems to be some value to software companies making hardware if only to help set the tone and introduce features or ideas they hope other companies who use their software will follow.

That said, I wonder if we won’t see the Xbox brand transition to software only with a line of gamer targeted Microsoft surfaces advertised as Xbox ready.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Those are the standards and those products have value. Buying an Xbox when Playstation has all games for both consoles makes no sense unless you just have to have Gamepass, specifically.

[-] Shadywack@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Also, you really can’t trust anything that comes out of Phil Spencer’s mouth.

That's really not a Phil Spencer thing, and more of a "You can tell any executive is lying, because their lips are moving" thing.

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[-] SquigglyEmpire@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

It's never a good sign when you have to say something like that...

[-] Shadywack@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

"Any man who must say 'I am the King' is no true king."

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 9 months ago

Didn't Aragorn have to tell those ghost dudes he was the king to get them to fulfill their oath? 🤔

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[-] Aielman15@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Okay, but are the users still committed to buying them?

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[-] Defaced@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

The only reason they want their games on multiple platforms is so they can prove they're not trying to buy up studios for exclusivity. This is the main objective here folks. They don't care about being on more than one platform, they just don't want to fight the FTC again when they try to buy up sega, square enix, take2, embracer or whoever the fuck they want to buy next. Remember, this is the same arrogant bullshit company that wanted to buy Nintendo and got laughed out of the conference room.

[-] comrade19@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I wish they would let you install windows on them, but then i guess id be buying games on steam not Microsoft store / gamepass

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