Maybe instead of trying to train an AI powered car to deal with the insane chaos that is the road system, what if we designed something to remove that chaos? Maybe like a path that's just for these self driving cars. There's a network of paths to get you to your final destination.

But if we did that, there'd still be our current problems of running out of fuel, or battery power. Which could be solved by electrifying those paths.

But it'd be very difficult to have each of those individual cars switch between paths. Maybe it would be easier if instead of the cars switching paths, the people switched paths. Maybe we just make really long cars, and numerous people can get in them, and then switch cars as needed. People would need to know where to switch between these long cars. So we'd want to set schedules of when they're running to where, and then have an app or something that just told you where to get on and off.

And if they're really long, maybe we could kickstart this before we have self-driving abilities anyway. We could just have one person in the front driving it.

And maybe to reduce the need for rubber, instead of regular wheels on a road, they could just be metal wheels on metal tracks.

Just throwing some ideas out there.

Engineers at tesla do great work. Elon is a completely incompetent moron who has no fucking idea what he's talking about, please stop using what he says as 'gospel' for what the company and its products can and can not do.

The literal only reason he's CEO of tesla right now is because he fucking bought the position

meanwhile actual human drivers continue to get worse at driving, partially caused by the many driving "assistants" which won't stop making seemingly random noises. while also enabling the driver to look at their phone while completely ignoring traffic "because they have lane keeping and distance control"

cars around me have my full attention, because my car doesn't interfere wuth my ability to drive. (2002 yaris btw)

rant over, sorry. i just really hate modern cars.

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There was a 'The Flash' TV show back in the early 1990s. One episode had an evil scientist from the 1950s freezing himself to escape justice. When he awakens in 1990 he looks and around and curses. "Where are my jetpacks? Where are the Moon Cities??"

I bought a Tesla in early 2020 and after four years I can say confidently that autonomous driving seems unlikely. The self driving feature feels like I'm in the car with my geriatric grandpa. It drives like a stoned teenager trying to protect the liability of his rich daddy.

The reason that humans are able to drive swiftly and efficiently is because we're not thinking about every single thing that could go wrong at every single moment. The car is incapable of such blissful ignorance and therefore the autonomous driving experience is uncomfortable, to say the least.

The 90/90 rule strikes again!

self driving cars would basically be more comfortable and also more expensive public transport.

i for one like to control when i go where at what speed, at which interior temperature, at a great increase in comfort, with a good deal more privacy and in a vehicle i own.

a coexistence of public and private transport to fit everyone's needs and demands would be ideal, but another culture war seems likelier.

And I am pretty sure that in a couple of years we will be talking the same way about AI. Yes generative AI is cool and can do some useful stuff but we are fast approaching the theoretical threshold and progress over this threshold would become much more difficult if not almost impossible.

As someone posted out, it is relatively easy to design a self-driving car that drives 99% fully autonomously, but the last 1% is extremely difficult to crack and there are too many edge cases and problems that you would need to solve, that are not solvable with the current state of AI and hardware.

AI hypebot gonna AI hype

This is the best summary I could come up with:

In 2015, the then-lead of Google’s self-driving car project Chris Urmson said one of his goals in developing a fully driverless vehicle was to make sure that his 11-year-old son would never need a driver’s license.

In 2016, then-Lyft president John Zimmer claimed that “a majority” of the trips taking place on its ride-sharing network would be in fully driverless cars “within five years.” That same year, Business Insider said that 10 million autonomous vehicles would be on the road by 2020.

But confined within geofenced service areas, held back by their own technological shortcomings, opposed by labor unions and supporters of more reliable modes of transportation, and restricted from driving on certain roads or in certain weather conditions.

The amount of money flowing into the autonomous vehicle space also had the knock-on effect of convincing regulators to take a lax approach when it comes to self-driving cars.

It’s released a number of studies and statistical analyses in recent years that it says proves its vehicles get in fewer crashes, cause less damage, and improve overall safety on the roads.

Broken promises and failed predictions are what’s fueling the growing skepticism about self-driving cars in the public which, as the years plod by, gets more and more turned off by the idea of relinquishing control of their vehicles to a robot.

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I'm watching the show "Upload". I'm five episodes in and so far two people have already been killed by self-driving cars. Is this really the future everyone is looking forward to?

Mhe .cars is cars .