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submitted 8 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

An attorney representing E. Jean Carroll has indicated the journalist could sue Donald Trump for a third time, as the former president continues to speak about her client publicly.

Speaking on MSNBC's Inside With Jen Psaki on Monday night, Shawn Crowley, an attorney for Carroll, responded to the frontrunner for the GOP presidential nomination telling supporters at a Michigan rally on Saturday that he had not done anything wrong to Carroll, whom he claimed he did not know, and that lawsuits against him were "unfair."

In January, a New York City jury ordered that the former president must pay $83.3 million in damages to the former Elle columnist, for statements made in 2019. He said she was lying about allegations that he sexually assaulted her inside a Manhattan department store dressing room in the 1990s. That amount includes $7.3 million in compensatory damages, $11 million for reputational repair, and $65 million in punitive damages. He has repeatedly denied all wrongdoing and has said he will appeal the verdict.

Trump was previously ordered to pay Carroll $5 million in damages in May in another civil defamation trial stemming from a denial he made about her claims in 2022. He is appealing that decision and has set aside $5.55 million with the Manhattan Court as part of that process. Newsweek contacted a representative for Trump by email to comment on this story.

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[-] 520@kbin.social 286 points 8 months ago

Carroll found an IRL infinite money glitch

[-] Bdaman@sh.itjust.works 35 points 8 months ago

Hard to get blood from a turnip.

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

Not really? Trump uses banks, and banks will freeze assets to a court order and turn them over.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

That only applies to people who aren't rich. Trump is going to use the Alex Jones playbook of bankruptcy, shell companies, and "but I can't survive on anything less than 80k a month"

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 28 points 8 months ago

No? Alex Jones's assets were not public, so they were easier to hide. Trump has many public assets, and the Trump Org is a very public (although privately held) company.

There's already a judge in control of the Trump Org, so they can't move any money without approval. The State of NY is literally holding him by the balls, whether he pays up or not.

Banks do not help people whose assets are already frozen. It would be obvious and they would get a massive fine, and the recipient bank would send the money back (if they're in the US). Plus whichever bank employee made the transfer would be fired.

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[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 30 points 8 months ago

In this case I don't think so. Trump has low liquidity but many assets. Even if he dies she can get paid from his estate.

[-] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago
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[-] alienzx@feddit.nl 22 points 8 months ago

He doesn't have any money to pay her

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 77 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Every appeal ends up putting actual money in escrow. He doesn't have enough money to actually appeal this last decision + the new York fraud decision.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago

Doesn't matter. Still sue.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 188 points 8 months ago

That's amazing. Do it.

I want her to drag him to court over and over. It will be, as Trump likes to say, "a beautiful thing, folks. A beautiful thing."

[-] homoludens@feddit.de 25 points 8 months ago

So much winning!

[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

People are saying, it's a beautiful thing.

[-] LocoOhNo@lemmus.org 83 points 8 months ago

While I applaud her for her bravery, I also worry because of what his lunatic supporters have been known to do to their perceived "enemy."

Remember, they think he's literally the second coming of Christ.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 92 points 8 months ago

She literally doesnt care. The juice is worth the squeeze.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago

How have I never heard that phrase before? I love it

[-] vind@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

I just remember it from Girl Next Door lol

[-] vinylshrapnel@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 8 months ago

I’m all wet. Can I come in?

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[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The juice is worth the squeeze.

what a wonderful saying. personally i like "[it's just] sauce for the goose" (as a follow-up to/implying the phrase "his goose is cooked"), but what you said is seems to fit better here.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

They thought the same about Hitler and an entire generation of Germans and Austrians lived the remainder of their lives in silent shame when it all fell apart.

[-] Wolf_359@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

One big difference I think.

Nazi Germany lost in outright combat against an enemy they had always said they could beat. They were decimated and many of their sycophants were killed in battle.

Unless Trump and his followers start an actual armed rebellion and get put down, I don't see how they end up ashamed.

Beating Trump in court, while it needs to be done, allows all of his followers to keep saying, "See? We told you the deep state was out to get him."

[-] LocoOhNo@lemmus.org 11 points 8 months ago

Unless Trump and his followers start an actual armed rebellion

Those people are out there. It's one of the main reasons I left Florida. A truck load of guys showed up outside my polling place in 2020 with AR's and they were asking everyone in line who they planned on voting for/if they were voting for Trump. The cops were called and they told the people who called that "as long as they weren't brandishing their weapons or threatening anyone" that nothing could be done. This was in the parking lot of a public library during voting; the cops chose to not do anything.

"Stand back and stand by" is all these people think about. They aren't making a move until Trump tells them to, but there's a non-zero chance that they start getting violent, similar to "the troubles" in Ireland in the 90's.

And our legal system fails us every single day Trump is a free man getting to flap his gums. We all know what we watched happen. We heard what he said, we saw what the aftermath was... If it was you or I, we'd be in solitary confinement yesterday.

There's a long damn time until November and I'm fearful, but there's not much I can do to change anything.

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[-] rickdg@lemmy.world 54 points 8 months ago

If maga-country is paying for it, might as well get that money again and again.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Hey, most of us are also trying to grift MAGA folks.

We can't let Trump have it all.

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[-] SeabassDan@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

So he's actually on her side grifting his own people for her gain.

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[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 8 months ago

Going for the hat trick? I like your style.

[-] londos@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago

It's like she found a faulty slot machine that won't stop putting out.

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[-] twistypencil@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago

At what point is trump just doing what he wants and not paying? Can he go to debtors prison or something?

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 76 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

New York will seize & start auctioning off his properties. He can't even appeal without putting the damages fine in escrow.

I read yesterday that Trump only has ~$550M in liquid assets & $50M of that he can't touch without it automatically recalling a loan that he currently cannot pay.

I'd like to point out the last part is no one's problem but Trump's & whatever bank gave him that loan.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago

Not even Trump's problem, I'm afraid. As J. Paul Getty famously said-

If you owe the bank $100, that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem.

That's true for $50 million as well.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 22 points 8 months ago

thing is: he doesn't owe it to a bank-- he owes it via judgements to Carroll and to the People of the State of New York, and, on their behalf, the State of New York will start seizing Trump's assets and auctioning them off to cover the judgements.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Depends on how the loan is secured. If he put up some of his property as collateral then the bank can just seize it and it's not their problem then.

[-] Cantankerousnuts@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago

Yeah, but the property he put up saying is worth 50 million to secure the loan is probably only worth 3 million 🤣

[-] doubletwist@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Then they sue him for lying about the value of the collateral. One big oroboros of lawsuits until Trump has nothing.

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Pretty dumb quote.

The bank has an army of lawyers who sure as shit gonna make it your problem.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

It hasn't been a problem for Trump before. He's defaulted on many loans.

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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 36 points 8 months ago

Its like a gift that keeps on giving!

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Except he never pays

[-] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

Don't forget to bring an extra set of forms to file on the way out, when he does it again in this next trial!

[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 29 points 8 months ago

As long as there’s evidence and damages cover the attorney fees she can keep this going.

[-] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago

President Loser continuing his losing streak.

[-] strawberry@kbin.run 8 points 8 months ago

lol sure that bitch into the ground

[-] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Bitch-Tits needs to shut. His. Mouth.

[-] HoustonHenry@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I'm cool with .73 cents out of each dollar he gets donated going to others, I'd like him to talk more so he goes bankrupt before the July estimate 👍

[-] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

That works for me, too. If it MUST talk, drain it of resources and money until it withers up and blows away.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 5 points 8 months ago
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