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So I've realized that in conversations I'll use traditional terms for men as general terms for all genders, both singularly and for groups. I always mean it well, but I've been thinking that it's not as inclusive to women/trans people.

For example I would say:

"What's up guys?" "How's it going man?" "Good job, my dude!” etc.

Replacing these terms with person, people, etc sounds awkward. Y'all works but sounds very southern US (nowhere near where I am located) so it sounds out of place.

So what are some better options?

Edit: thanks for all the answers peoples, I appreciate the honest ones and some of the funny ones.

The simplest approach is to just drop the usage of guys, man, etc. Folks for groups and mate for singular appeal to me when I do want to add one in between friends.

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[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago

What's up carbon based earthlings.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Whenever there's any question, I usually open with "sup, dogs" in my most serious voice, then continue to deadpan refer to everyone as dog, such as "and you, dog, I need to check the grist mill, thank you dog". Fifteen years in and no complaints so far.

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[–] braxy29@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i find myself using "friend" a lot lately. dunno if that's a great replacement.

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[–] skrlet13@feddit.cl 8 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Remember, non binary ppl exist too! (in reference of "both genders")

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[–] Robotunicorn@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

It depends on who you’re talking to. Many people don’t care about saying “guys” as it’s so universal. However, if you’re unsure or meeting new people, that’s where you’d likely want to change it up.

Hey friends! (This can be used for strangers too) What’s happening my peeps? Hello everyone! Hope you both have a good weekend

Or just What’s up? Hiya! Hey [insert their name]

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

Potential litigants

[–] BananaPeal@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

I like what they use on the Bananas Podcast. "Guys, gals, and non-binary pals."

[–] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Guys is probably the most neutral of the ones you mentioned.

[–] BillSchofield@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I sound even more southern than I am because I say "y'all" frequently to avoid gendered pronouns. People, you, and we are often good. I think my favorite is "you folks".

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Earthling...Terran - I don't care how awkward it sounds. It's awkward for me to change might as well make it awkward for everyone.

Edit: just me being cranky... Normally I go out of my way to make people feel accepted.

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[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I tend to use "folks" for my usual gender-neutral collective pronoun.

I don't think "dude" is a real issue, is it? Here in Australia, I'll happily use mate for any gender, and I often hear other genders do the same.

Of course, we also tend to unnecessarily shorten (or lengthen) people's names here, and those always get used:

  • Darren = Daz or Dazza
  • Josh = Josho
  • Dan = Danno or Danny-boy
  • Adam = Ads
  • [first name] Thompson = Tommo
  • [first name] Johnson - Jonno

Even our Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese, is Albo. You get the idea... ;)

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People here are not understanding that language changes with location

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[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

"YOU PEOPLE" 😂 I'm kidding

[–] TheMusicalFruit@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You could go with the classic Appalachia (Pittsburgh more specifically) … “Yinz”

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[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Dude its OK for me because you Know, the dude.

Pacifist as fuck, its a good name then. I don't feel it like man, etc. Even the majority when using it don't think about lebowski.

If i name someone dude, there is more than "man" behind. But I'm maybe wrong ?

Edit : oh sorry realized plurials.

People fine for me, its just an habit to change really. Or hey guys and girls or better, hey girls and guys 😂

But as non English speaker I could use dude for the group, and a my lady for her, if there is an fellow trans with me. Not others ofc. Will check thé answers for real lol

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[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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