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A hidden consequence of the gig economy is that workers keep asking customers for sex or dates::"People have the right to order a pizza ... without then being asked for sex or a date."

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[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 144 points 1 year ago

"People have the right to order a pizza … without then being asked for sex or a date.”

I've seen plenty of documentary footage showing that arriving with a pizza often ends in an invitation to personally deliver the sausage.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

The sausage is always whole though. And awkwardly placed vertically on the pizza.

[-] MoonManKipper@lemmy.world 90 points 1 year ago

I’m confident it’s not 1 in 3 customers, rather “most customers who are also young women”. You should be able to order a pizza without being hit on, especially as they now have your contact details

[-] radix@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

Considering it's limited in scope to Brits between the ages of 18 and 34, one in three is actually conservative seeing as it's less than the half of the population you would expect to be women by default.

[-] Spuddaccino@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago

That makes sense to me.

Everyone has a type, even sleazeballs that hit on people they're delivering food to. They're bound to find some women that don't appeal to them.

[-] LifeInOregon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

You should also be able to deliver a pizza without being hit on. I’m a dad side-hustling to take care of my family. I don’t need women answering the door topless and making “do I get extra sausage” jokes. And I also don’t need old ladies hitting on me when I bring their heavy groceries to the door for a Safeway delivery.

Whether someone is the deliverer or the deliveree, just get the transaction done and move on with your day. No harassment needed.

[-] MoonManKipper@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Agreed - though does the topless thing happen a lot in Oregon? Just asking for a friend

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Would it be any different with normal delivery drivers? The issue here is lack of reporting or enforcement. There are good reasons to bash the gig economy, but this one's just riding the wave for the clicks

[-] SgtSilverLining@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If an employee delivering pizza harassed me, they would be fired. They couldn't be hired at that same pizza place again - they'd have a blacklisted ssn.

If a gig work worker harassed me, they could easily resign up using someone else's info. In fact, that's a common method for harassing women - they sign up with a fake woman's profile so you let your guard down.

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 7 points 1 year ago

Isn't that pretty much the definition of lack of enforcement? Any customer could report if the driver is using a different ID, then it's up to the platform to kill the account.

[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's one of the big issues with all these Gig companies. There's little to no oversight. They offload as much responsibility as they can by lying that "this is not really our employee but a self-employed contractor"

[-] MonkeyKhan@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

There doesn't seem to be any data that they based this conclusion on, but I certainly find it somewhat plausible. High turnover and a disconnect between employer and employee may drive the lack of reporting and enforcement you point out. It may also reduce the perceived risk, like your colleagues finding out you are a creep, or being fired.

[-] blacklizardplanet@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Leave it at the door is the default option for all my services I use. Have literally never spoken to the a gig worker before, during or after delivering something for me.

[-] Lexam@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

I love the "leave it at the door" option. But you can't do that with an uber.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

What is “asking for sex?” I know it sounds dumb but is this a thing people really do? How do they say it? “Hey any chance I could have some sex?” “Spare any sex?” “Here’s your food want to fuck?”

And does anyone ever say yes????

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Just a crumb of pussy m'lady.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Oh dear! I seem to have misplaced my wallet. Is there... Some other way I could pay?"

Only it's a weird and creepy (possibly ugly even) dude saying it to a young woman who just wants to pay her rent and is delivering for DoorDash on the side.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Clearly. Humans only do things that work.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Humans only do things that work.

If only.

[-] whispering_depths@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

if you're a girl, you'll get freaks approach you eventually if you see enough people who will passively say awful things to you, ask for sex, get stalked,etc

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’m a man so I have no idea. But I have heard some stories. It must be gross.

What words do people use to “ask for sex?” I have some idea what flirting is. I have some idea what hitting on someone is. I don’t know what it actually looks like to “ask for sex.”

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

This happens anywhere and everywhere anyway. You will not quench the thurst

[-] thurstylark@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

THIS IS CORRECT. I CANNOT BE QUENCHED.

[-] unreachable@lemmy.my.id 14 points 1 year ago

a wild fucking thurst appears

[-] StickyLavander@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

User name checks out

[-] autotldr 9 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Almost 1 in 3 Brits between 18 and 34 years old have received unwanted contact from delivery drivers or other workers asking them out on dates or for sex, the UK's data watchdog has warned.

"People have the right to order a pizza, or give their email for a receipt, or have shopping delivered, without then being asked for sex or a date a little while later," said Emily Keaney, a deputy commissioner at the ICO.

In June, a female Etihad Airways passenger told The Guardian how she felt unsafe after a worker contracted by the airline found her phone number in the company system then sent her unsolicited text messages.

A growing number of firms, particularly in delivery, transport, or logistics, rely on gig economy or contract workers.

Its survey found that two-thirds of the UK public believe it isn't morally right to use personal details given for business purposes for romantic or sexual propositions.

The regulator said it's cracking down on such occurrences, asking victims to come forward, and reaching out to companies to remind them of their data protection responsibilities.


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[-] Holyginz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Anyone have a non pay walled link?

[-] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol, do you even need it? The headline speaks volumes.🤣

Almost 1 in 3 Brits between 18 and 34 years old have received unwanted contact from delivery drivers or other workers asking them out on dates or for sex, the UK's data watchdog has warned.

The survey of over 2,000 British adults carried out for the Information Commissioner's Office found that, in total, 17% of people have had their personal information used for a romantic or sexual proposition after handing it over to a business.

That figure rises to 33% in London, where such incidents are most common.

"People have the right to order a pizza, or give their email for a receipt, or have shopping delivered, without then being asked for sex or a date a little while later," said Emily Keaney, a deputy commissioner at the ICO.

"Our research today shows a disturbingly high number of people, particularly young people, are falling prey to these text pests," she added.

In June, a female Etihad Airways passenger told The Guardian how she felt unsafe after a worker contracted by the airline found her phone number in the company system then sent her unsolicited text messages.

"There may be, amongst some, an outdated notion that to use someone's personal details given to you in a business context to ask them out is romantic or charming," Keaney said. "Put quite simply, it is not – it is against the law."

A growing number of firms, particularly in delivery, transport, or logistics, rely on gig economy or contract workers. These workers are not entitled to the same employment rights as full-time workers, the jobs can be precarious and badly paid, and turnover is often high. One consequence is that sensitive customer information, such as phone numbers and addresses, is accessible to casual workers.

The ICO did not explicitly name any companies, but pointed to "major businesses" operating in food and parcel delivery.

Its survey found that two-thirds of the UK public believe it isn't morally right to use personal details given for business purposes for romantic or sexual propositions.

The regulator said it's cracking down on such occurrences, asking victims to come forward, and reaching out to companies to remind them of their data protection responsibilities.

If a company is found not to be following data-protection laws, it can be fined up to £17.5 million ($22.1 million) or 4% of its global turnover

This has nothing to do with "gig economy"

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 year ago

Gig economy means a bunch of randos get your contact information instead of long term employees who receive proper training and management.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

I think the last thing anyone wants is some broke ass gig worker hitting on them.

[-] Madex@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Not just sitting on them for text pests, have you experienced their scooter riding lately. I nearly clapped one today cutting in front of me on a roundabout...

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