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submitted 8 months ago by onlooker@lemmy.ml to c/gaming@beehaw.org

Not to say I hate the genre, I actually love me some Dusk or Turbo Overkill, but why, oh why are they called Boomer Shooters?

These games clearly took inspiration from 90s FPS games, which 👌, but they were played mostly by Gen Xers and Millenials, not Boomers. When games like Duke Nukem 3D or Quake were out, Boomers were what? 30 to 50 years old? I'm sure some of them played FPS games, but there is no way they were the majority.

Whenever I see the term Boomer Shooter, my mind goes to games like Shootout! for Magnavox Odyssey. Can't we call them something else, like Retro FPSes or something?

Anyway, rant over. Thank you for your time.

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[-] Hubi@feddit.de 79 points 8 months ago

It's not meant to be taken literally. Language evolves and boomer no longer exclusively refers to baby boomers, it's just a general Gen-Z term for older people.

[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 64 points 8 months ago

I know, but just let me have my old man yells at cloud moment.

[-] Hubi@feddit.de 61 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 38 points 8 months ago

No, you're not. But I like you anyway.

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[-] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 17 points 8 months ago

That's OK, because older people use the term Gen-Z for idiots of all ages.

[-] Midnitte@beehaw.org 12 points 8 months ago

But we're not o.... ah nevermind.

[-] RavenFellBlade@startrek.website 14 points 8 months ago

"Whatevers" in GenX.

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm a younger millennial.
I'm out of my 20s. My back hurts. You're wrong :D

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[-] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 76 points 8 months ago

Boomer is a state of mind, love, and this post is a shining example of boomerism.

[-] Tiltinyall@beehaw.org 9 points 8 months ago

I'd say closer to the xennial "forgotten generation" type. The playtesters of all of your favorite franchises didn't fall behind as far as you think.

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[-] kbal@fedia.io 67 points 8 months ago

You seem like an intelligent and discerning person, so I'm sure you'll appreciate that the only possible response to this is "ok boomer"

[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 31 points 8 months ago

Dammit! Upvoted with great begrudgement.

[-] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube 34 points 8 months ago
[-] BirdEnjoyer@kbin.social 30 points 8 months ago

Lol try being a Roguelike fan.

You correctly tell people that Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is a Roguelike and they look at you like you've grown a second head.

Sometimes this stuff happens, and there's basically nothing you can do about it.

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[-] pelotron@midwest.social 27 points 8 months ago

Guys, IT ISN'T A REFERENCE TO THE BOOMER GENERATION. It's boomer as in shotgun-go-BOOM.

[-] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 10 points 8 months ago

This is worse tho. You can't just erase the bfg like this

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 8 months ago

Boomer cope

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 24 points 8 months ago

I love the term. For me it's not just a shooter in an older style but also a shooter that goes BOOM. Much better than boring cover shooters.

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[-] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 22 points 8 months ago

Oh come on. It's funny. Boomer is more of a state of mind descriptor at this point. Don't be such a boomer bro.

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[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 18 points 7 months ago

Boomer Shooter = Shooter that goes boom

Boomer shooter

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[-] 520@kbin.social 17 points 8 months ago

I call them id-style shooters myself, but there is a bit of word play I like in the term 'boomer shooter'. On top of referencing the age of the audience when they first arrived (albeit incorrectly), it is also a reference to the fact that the optimal strategy for these games is simply to blow things the fuck up. There is very little tactical play beyond what weapons to use for a given situation, and these games really love their explosive barrels and rocket launchers.

[-] Amphobet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 8 months ago

I never even considered that the name referred to baby boomers I thought it just meant they went "boom"

[-] PatheticGroundThing@beehaw.org 15 points 8 months ago

Worth noting that the boomer wojak meme started as "That 30 year old boomer". It was never about actual Baby Boomers.

This is it, notice how Google Trends[1] shows a rise in "30 year old boomer" not long before "boomer shooter" becomes more commonplace. It's just the whole applying "boomer" to things like being stuck in their ways or boomer-like behavior, rather than age, that took off a few years back.

[1] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=boomer%20shooter,30%20year%20old%20boomer&hl=en

[-] shea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 8 months ago

Old=boomer sorry. That's just the way it turned out, nothing we can do about it. Raging against new slang is just gonna make us more out of touch, and intensify the feeling of being old, so I just accept it and try to keep up. Boomer is old now, not just the Baby Boomers.

[-] Aasikki@sopuli.xyz 8 points 7 months ago

I'm 26 and I've already been called a boomer by younger people. I don't really see the problem as to me it's just funny and reminds me to try my best not to eventually become a boomer that hates everything that isn't how it used to be.

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[-] Phroon@beehaw.org 14 points 7 months ago

I always assumed that the Boom in Boomer Shooter was more “Gun go Boom”, which seemed to fit the genre quite well.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

We were calling them Doom-likes before FPS became a thing, maybe it's time to bring it back as a sub category.

[-] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 8 months ago

Doom clones!

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[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 months ago

It feels like everybody, here are just a few examples. And if that doesn't cut it for you, Steam has a whole-ass tag for boomer shooters.

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[-] Shurimal@kbin.social 11 points 8 months ago

Oldskool FPS. There. That's the correct term. Now, who's up for some DM-Morpheus with instagib mutator?🤘

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[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 10 points 7 months ago

I dunno, my rich uncle is a boomer and back in the 90s he was one of the only people I knew who could afford a gucci PC and every big box FPS game. So it kinda makes sense from that perspective.

[-] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

My dad helped me install the original Wolfenstein 3D on DOS when I was a kid. And he's 100% a boomer (b.1947). So for that reason it always feels accurate to me.

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[-] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 9 points 7 months ago

Yeah, it drives me nuts as well! Boomers hated video games. They still hate video games. They had congressional hearings about the evils of video games. Stupid name.

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It is utterly bizarre to me out of all the misnomers and ridiculous (sometimes offensive) terms out there in the media/hobby world, I see “boomer shooter” complained about so much more than any other. This is like the third rant I’ve seen about it in a week.

I thought Twitter and such were making a mountain out of a mole hill with how people responded to the term “Boomer“ in past years but clearly it ruffles peoples feathers way more than it should. Half the time I go through the comment histories and these are the same people that use ableist slurs regularly. I am not suggesting that OP does, I have not looked at their comments. Just a general observation.

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[-] meteokr@community.adiquaints.moe 8 points 8 months ago

Back to Doom-clone it is then.

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's marketing doublespeak dreamed up by the totally deranged and it works

You have to remember its millennials and Gen Z experiencing this genre, not boomers.

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[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I get that the term doesn't line up age wise with actually Boomers in terms of calendar years, but also video game generations are shorter than social generations. We're currently on the "ninth-generation" of video games, and Doom came out at the beginning of the third generation of video games. So you could consider Doom-likes to be 6 generations old, and baby-boomers to be 4 generations old. So in terms of "generations", Boomer shooters should maybe be named after an older generation such as the "Greatest Generation" (6 generations ago). Therefore I propose we call Doom-likes "Greatest Shooters" instead of "Boomer shooters".

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[-] bonegakrejg@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

I've been saying this forever too! Boomers were the ones complaining about thier kids playing them back in the day because of the violence and demonic imagery.

In the 90s people called them "Doom-like"s. I usually just say "90s FPS games". Which I guess could be confusing and make people think I'm talking about framerate, but eh.

[-] Grzmot@beehaw.org 8 points 8 months ago

Boomer today is used for anything that's old, and I wouldn't be surprised if you get Gen Xers that get called boomers. Since boomer shooters are a homage to old shooters, we call them boomer shooter. The ultimate problem is that it's just catchy, so unless you find a more catchy term, you're shit outta luck.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 7 months ago

An actual boomer shooter would be like Space Invaders.

But at least it's got a name I suppose so if you like them you can find them and differentiate them from all your online XP bar tutorial modern bullshit.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I just think of it like boom as in explosions. Boom-boom shooty-shoot; or boomer shooter if you prefer brevity.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 points 8 months ago

Millennials are going to be in absolute shambles if they ever find out "Okay boomer" wasn't directly targeted at boomers.

[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 months ago

It wasn't? This is what Wikipedia says:

"OK boomer" or "okay boomer" is a catchphrase and internet meme that has been used by members of the Millennial generation and Generation Z (born between the early 1980s and the early 2010s) to dismiss or mock attitudes typically associated with baby boomers – people born in the two decades following World War II.

Who was it targeted at then?

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