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submitted 8 months ago by RGB3x3@lemmy.world to c/atheism@lemmy.world

Saw that on a bumper sticker today. How do people reconcile the idea that God, or Jesus, would support gun ownership and that being awful to people is okay?

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago

Seems to me like there's only one reason to own a gun- to shoot things. Everything else is about what is being shot and why.

It's like saying there's 100 reasons to own a screwdriver. No there isn't. There's just 100 things you can think of that have screws in them.

[-] eltrain123@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What about if you use it like an ice pick?😉

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

It wouldn't work very well what with not being pointy.

[-] DeadPand@midwest.social 26 points 8 months ago

They don’t read their own holy texts, Jesus hated hypocrites too, so they’re in for a real shock if all that shit is real

[-] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 12 points 8 months ago

I'm going to call their bluff on being able to count to 100.

[-] yemmly@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

For folks like this, Religion is much more tribal identifier than faith.

[-] hudson@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

They worship their own bigotries, selfish wants, and desires. They worship hate and the suffering of others.

[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 8 months ago

Luke 22:36-38

While preparing for his arrest, Jesus tells his disciples to sell their cloaks if they don't have a sword, and go buy a sword. Some view this as Jesus advocating for his followers to be armed, however it is also believed that he just wanted them armed to ensure that he gets arrested, especially when his disciples say that they have 2 swords already, and Jesus replies "That's enough".

Then in John, when the guards show up to arrest Jesus, Peter draws his sword and cuts the ear off of a guard. This pissed off Jesus, and he told Peter to put his sword where it belongs because 'those who live by the sword, die by the sword'. It is obvious that Jesus didn't intend for the weapons to be used. Perhaps he should have known that 'dumbasses who carry weapons, want to use weapons.'

[-] gac11@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

That bumper sticker reminds me of this gem one of my Facebook "friends" posted:

https://wp-media.patheos.com/blogs/sites/65/2012/12/bible-gun-300x300.jpg

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Agree on the Bible. If every American learned how to use it, we'd have a lot more atheists.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Half the Old testament is God ordering people (usually David) to commit war crimes. God would absolutely support gun ownership. He'd want people to use them too.

Jesus not so much.

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