Will make it worse, but if you look into the harms of natural gas (AKA Methane) the USA is already doing more damage than ever with much more coming online and even more planned. Climate Town video on the subject: https://youtu.be/K2oL4SFwkkw?si=r9YNB_9FPAroQCG8.

Trump will just make an already dire situation worse which might actually bring it all to a head sooner. Not an endorsement but more acknowledgment of the sad reality we are actually in.

I don't mean to downplay the environment, but I think we'll have a long list of worries... 🫨

would*

"Could"?

Way to hedge, Gruaniad. Thanks for nothing but horse race junk.

At risk of by chance being somehow miraculously reached? The climate goals will soon be as dead as the polar bears.

No shit. A lot more than just the climate goals will be at risk.

Honestly I think electing him in 2016 was the final nail in the coffin of our chances to fully prevent major climate change. Now we're 10 years too late.

Now we need a diverse array of strategies, including but not limited to, reduction in our emissions, mitigation of effects and seeing Russia defeated in physical warfare and made to reduce their hydrocarbon reliance. Failure in any facet of the multi-modal approach now necessary will see corresponding consequences.

Naturally, electing him again in 2024 would probably make everything much worse. Again.

But he might bring about the complete collapse of the US... which would result in less emissions.

Try to be more optimistic!

What climate goals? I see a lot of talk about deadlines and dreams. I don't see much to indicate that there are any goals.

In sports, a goal is something that everyone puts coordinated and concerted effort into achieving.

In business, a goal is something that everyone puts coordinated and concerted effort into achieving.

If the climate "goals" that were set in the 1990s, weak as they were, had been actual goals, we'd now be planning the closure of the last pipelines, not celebrating the opening of new ones and planning for the next. We'd be planning the closure of the last oil and gas fields, not looking for new drilling and fracking opportunities.

Sure, Trump and his ilk are going to make a show of getting in the way, but it's not like there is any coordinated, concerted effort for them to block.

Goals are already busted. Without Trump's help. This is just some political faction trying to push blame. It's a propaganda piece.

If Trump wins they can continue to pollute as they see fit. But they can shuffle the blame.

Think about the stock holders.

continued existence of capitalism does that already

Remember kids. A vote for the right in any country is a vote for Putin and Xi.

Trumpsters don’t need further convincing.

Tell everyone you know in Michigan to vote. The rest of us barely matter

For once I feel like climate goals are the least I'd be worried about should the world's most influential nation elect a wannabe dictator...

TIL there are goals. Seems like nobody is doing anything meaningful.

No shit.

Could?

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpus2&f=m let's petroleum production as at a near all time high. Let's not pretend Biden is doing a bang up job on climate. We need more seats in Congress on top of the Presidency to make meaningful change.

Not a fan of voting along party lines up and down the ballot. That just promotes our current state of platformless policitians. Try your best to learn about candidates including third party candidates and vote for the best possible representative. Obviously vote for Biden to keep Trump out, but if you are trying to get. Someone right leaning to think about helping keep this dumbass out of office, you are just going to turn them away by telling them to vote democrat across the ballet. Stay laser focused on keeping Trump out of office.

And so could the election of any other politician.