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So I'm watching TOS for the first time... (have alreay watched all show from TNG to DISC quite a while ago and yes, my fav is DS9 followed by TNG) and have just started "The Enemy Within"

Idk why but my shitpost-ridden brain instantly went "wait... d-did they make Kirk hot?"

that's it, that's the post. It's mostly a /hj (I hope (?))

(just has the vibe of queercoding a villain having the opposite effect)

EDIT: I have now seen the following sexual assault scene, wtf

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[–] frosty99c@midwest.social 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TheHottub@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

They were going for gasps.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... because they had to make him distinguishable from normal Kirk but hadn't yet settled on the convention of just giving him a goatee?

[–] T156@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Could also have been to make the difference more subtle, since they're different parts of the same person, rather than being two separate people like the goatee counterparts are.

[–] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Queercoding villains to make them seem dangerous and deviant to the people of the time (and those that are still stuck in that time). Admittedly, the people making that decision probably weren't conscious of that being why they thought eyeliner made him look villainous.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 year ago

For me it's a simple makeup effect to show unmitigated sleep loss from the intrusive voices.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s also a subtle change that you recognize but don’t really see, more feel.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It also makes him stand out more. Where regular/good Kirk has a spotlight on his eyes (like Morticia Addams), Evil Kirk has darkened eyes instead.

[–] jlow@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that what I was thinking as well.

[–] Haus@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is Ming the Merciless an example of this?

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No but Ming the Fabulous is.

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The abominable Dr. Phibes also loves his makeup.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Makes sense, tho as you said I wouldn't suggest bad intentions/faith of anyone in the team behind Star Trek (except fucking Berman, obsly), since I see it as a deeply progressive (not in the lib way) show

[–] T156@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gives him dark eyes, as opposed to the bright/spotlit eyes on good Kirk? So you can immediately tell there's a difference between the two.

Idk why but my shitpost-ridden brain instantly went "wait... d-did they make Kirk hot?"

Depending on your taste/sexuality, they arguably do that most of the time. The man seems to have shirts made of tissue paper.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Eye shadow makes you more attractive, it's just a fact.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also this doggo is absolutely adorable in that costume

[–] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I haven't seen that episode, but now forever in my mind Evil Kirk is redeemed by the unstoppable power of doggy love. "I hate everything! Except maybe this dog. Actually, this dog rocks....do I really hate everything?"

[–] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also this doggo is absolutely adorable in that costume

The wrong two of those actors are dead. ☹️
It should have been Shatner, twice.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Leonard Nimoy and the animal actor who portrayed the Alfa 177 canine (in all likelyhood) are both dead.

I would prefer a world where a cute happy dog and Leonard Nimoy were still with us and William Shatner had died, twice.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A large part of how we read emotions in other people is by looking at subtleties in their eyes. How open or closed, changes in shape that give away if they're telling the truth, etc.

In media, they often use dark makeup around the eyes, a shadow, or something like dark sunglasses as shorthand to show that a character is mysterious and hard to read, therefore possibly dangerous.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but that just makes them hotter lol

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hot people can also be evil

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

don't you dare bring logic into the house of ~~God~~ Star Trek shitposts

[–] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably the same reason that they make vampires sexy - the allure of the forbidden. Mr. Evil Kirk is the poisoned fruit.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

~~I'm sorry daddy, I have been a bad girl~~

forgive me father for I have sinned

[–] loopedcandle@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bonk. Straight to horny ~~jail~~ brig.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

(β—•ΰͺ¦β—•)

[–] zaphod@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

Btw that sexual assault scene is even more fucked up when you learn that Grace Lee Whitney was sexually assaulted by an unnamed executive associated with the series...

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 1 year ago

So you know he's evil without a goatee.

[–] Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm imagining William Shatner stumbling on this thread and having a fit of villanous laughter.

...cause he's F-A-B-U-LOUS!

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

He's going for gasps