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US approves Rafah op. in exchange for no Israeli counter-strikes on Iran - report (www.jpost.com)

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[-] filister@lemmy.world 55 points 7 months ago

Hmmm, this didn't age well, I guess.

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 7 months ago

And they'll still support the invasion. Biden got played for a fool, and it wasn't hard to see this would be the outcome.

[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 17 points 7 months ago

Biden has gotten played for a fool for months. If you have no red lines and the party you're negotiating realizes that, they've got you by the balls and they're going to do whatever the hell they want until the day of final judgement.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Israel is going to invade Rafah either way.

[-] anas@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Biden got played for a fool

Why are y’all acting like the President of the United States is a fool, and that he couldn’t stop this if he wanted to?

[-] hark@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago

I knew the israeli butchers were going to go into Rafah no matter what, but it makes me extra sick that they're dressing it up by pretending it's balanced out by not attacking Iran (after attacking their embassy in the first place).

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't think the Israelis consider them to be separate matters.

Avoiding the hot war with Iran in exchange for something Israel was going to do anyway, was the US's position. I guess we will see how many lives it would have saved since Israel is bombing right again right now.

I say hundreds of thousands.

[-] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

This is exactly right

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago

A senior official told The New Arab that "Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu managed to obtain American approval for a military operation in Rafah, in exchange for [Israel] refraining from carrying out a wide military operation against Iran in response to its recent attack."

This is insane, goes to show how much power the US has over Israeli military operations. US approval for genocide, what a strong finger wag.

[-] DeadWorld@lemm.ee 30 points 7 months ago

I'm not normally a "strong leader" guy, but Biden admin is looking mighty weak right now. Crazy how we are basically being told "capitulation to dictatorships is the adult option actually. Fucking babies"

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

You need strong leaders to prevent strong man types. They're two different things.

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago

Fuck.

[-] qprimed@lemmy.ml 16 points 7 months ago

this is insane and homicidal. I legitimately cannot fathom any of this bullshit.

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[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 25 points 7 months ago

This didn’t age well. Israel attacked Iran

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

I wonder if this is what Netanyahu had planned from the beginning?

[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago

I don't think he needed to plan it. This is just convenient. He knew one way or another he would get his way. Hell he'd do it without Biden's approval if needed, wouldn't be the first time they gave the US the middle finger. They know going directly against Israel is political suicide in the US.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

No one has stopped him before now, he had no reason to need to plan anything because he continues to get what he wants from America regardless.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

This gives him cover.

[-] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Can't wait for the Biden apologists to give their hot takes on this one.

Israel doesn't exist without American military support, period.

Redeploy the carrier groups, and Israel's entire strategy goes up in smoke, as they are reliant on Aegis to protect their airspace.

[-] Dramaking37@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Not Biden:

Republican senator Tom Cotton said Americans should “take matters into their own hands” when dealing with pro-Palestinian protesters, encouraging vigilantism.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Their take lately is that Trump is going to commit a genocide here and anyone who doesn't 100 percent support Biden is complicit. There's no evidence the GOP would or could pull off a genocide but that hasn't stopped them.

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[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 7 months ago

But I keep getting told Biden can't do anything to stop the genocide, then he goes and continues to fucking okay it

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You have to understand he’s only the PotUS; A completely powerless figurehead position.

[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

Hey US: how's that working out for you?

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 14 points 7 months ago

Dear strongest country in the world: what happen? You look super weak to fold under the demand of a country that's smaller than Hawaii.

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Always has been a Potemkin city. Hence the constant loud mouthing.

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Well, they apparently just struck Iran (and apparently also Iraq/Syria) so maybe the Rafah invasion is off. Probably not but it’d be nice if this deal is real and they just got what Bibi picked wrong.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Orrrrr

Biden could finally read the reports on credible accusations of human rights abuses and tell Netanyahu he's cut off.

Seems like a better path than letting himself get played so publicly.

[-] tearsintherain@leminal.space 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Biden is the dude that fist-bumped that Saudi ruler who ordered the assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi on foreign soil. Same Saudi ruler who gave Jared Kushner $2 billion to invest thanks to his time serving in his father-in-laws administration. Same Kushner who joked the Palestinian land would have some great beach front property for development (post genocide).

What a wonderful world we live in.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Change the shipping label on all those weapon crates from Tel Aviv to Kyiv and tell Bibi he doesn’t get any more toys until he learns how to play nice with others. It’s disturbing how spineless our government is when it comes to religious lobbies.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Like everyone here on lemmy predicted this as far back as the embassy strike

[-] yourNewFavouriteUser@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"yeah yeah sure you can do a little more genocide as treat if you don't start another war"

[-] Hello_there@fedia.io 7 points 7 months ago

If true, wtf. You'd think the genocide joe moniker was something to be careful of. Or I guess he can just embrace it and bend the knee to a country that's a small percentage of the US' size, gdp, and political influence.

[-] GeorgimusPrime@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

This strikes me as an attempt to increase complacency for a Rafah attack by presenting it as done deal.

[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

The US intercepted just about all the missiles. Israel owes the US for that, they shouldn't get to make demands.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

That’s how we should handle the counter attack Israel did. If you attack Iran, we won’t help defend you when Iran attacks you back.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Israel: strikes Iran anyways be cause Genocide Joe will support anything Netanyahi does.

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