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But it's the physicists' job to find this stuff.
Yeah, it's not like the mathematics lost any of the numbers. Get your shit together physicists.
I mean mathematicians are still missing over 99.999% of prime numbers, so...
They haven't even found more than two factors, one of which is one, for any prime number, either.
Get it together, Mathematicians.
, or ℙ for short.
I think that should be all of them, but if you want to check, there are references on the website where we keep all the numbers detailing how to check any number, or to list all of them if you want an arbitrarily large pile or have infinite time on your hands. :)
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The technical term you're looking for is "almost all" prime numbers. Not joking btw.
Well they did demonstrate that in a non trivial system of axioms, there will always be true statements that are unprovable. Do they kinda accepted that they will never be able to find everything. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems
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it's not like the mathematics lost any of the numbers
show me Pi then
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To be fair, political scientists probably don't know where 95% of the politics is hidden either.
Trick question, all politics is local.
Physics majors have every right to dunk on polisci. Too many majors throw around the word "science" to try to give their made-up voodoo legitimacy.
Political Science is the study of political systems and behaviours employing the scientific method. It's a sub field of social science and a very new one, at less than 150 years old. Political philosophy is of course much older.
employing the scientific method
Really? They have control groups? Blind and A/B testing? Hypothesis that they set out to reject?
I'm sure they have methods but are they scientific?
The answer to all your questions are
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes - Whatever goes against my political allegiances.
Yes - They all just have an n < 50.
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Hey genius, if you need experimentation in order for a field to be a real science, then explain how astronomy is a science.
Isn't one of the point of all those telescopes we built in space and on earth to prove or disprove our hypothesis regarding astronomy? Is that not experimentation?
No, it's observation. An experiment involves manipulating an independent variable while controlling other variables. There's none of that in space, not counting the ISS and Apollo. That said, you can still test hypotheses using observation. And that's equally true in both astronomy and in social sciences.
You make those claims without ever having looked into polisci studies. Not really looking to reject your own hypothesis.
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Yea computer "science"? Bitch you mean programming?
Depends. A proper computer science course is basically math with machines. At the highest level, it may have zero programming at all, and the machines in question are entirely abstract.
Software Engineering is, well, engineering (setting aside the whole debate on what makes a "real" engineer).
It used to be that universities crammed both under "computer science", and you had to look at the curriculum to figure out which one they were actually teaching. They tend to separate the two more clearly these days. Neither is really "science" in the strictest sense, but the term stuck now.
math with machines
so computer engineering?
No, the machines tend to be abstract. Such as an infinite paper tape that can manipulate symbols.
No, computer engineering tends to focus more on hardware. When I was doing that kind of thing in college, computer engineering did things like chip design and logic boards and so on. I had courses on DSP and VLSI, multiple assembly languages, RISC vs CISC systems, and so on. In my university, it was considered a subspecializqtion of electrical engineering, with the first two years of undergraduate study being identical.
When I switched over to CS, I was doing things like numerical analysis and software systems architecture.
Both majors used math, but CE (as an EE major) required students to go through (iirc) calculus 5, and I think that CS majors could stop at calc 3 but would end up having to do different kinds of math after that.
No, that's machines with math
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That's why informatics is by far the superior term. Computer science is such a boring terms anyways, you don't call maths "number science", biology "living beings science " or chemistry "atoms science" either.
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Yeah, polisci has gotten as far as the "observation" part of science and kinda has to stop there for moral reasons.
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What's voodoo about political science?
“Real” scientists try to put a spin on it akin to “You can’t properly hypothesise, reason or make predictions about anything based on a sample size of ~200 countries that are totally outside of your control and are very different from each other”. Few more arguments get thrown into a pot.
Doesn’t stop political scientists from mostly accurately describing things, so no harm is done here. The harm lies within pushing that opinion on general public, highlighting the that “proper” scientists don’t see any value in social “sciences”, hence contributing to public ignorance about societal problems.
And with how lousy political views of “rational”, “logical”, “critically thinking” people in STEM sometimes are, it’s awfully ironic.
Speaking as a disgruntled Russian STEM scientist who is horrified how willingly some of his collages ate Putin’s reasons for actions both against Ukraine and within Russia, including against fellow scientists (WTF, where’s professional solidarity?!).
That's pretty much where I was going. What are soft sciences supposed to do when experimental methods are either impractical or unethical? Give up?
If anything, fields like physics are in a privileged position where they can do the scientific method to the letter. Acting snooty about it is simply insulting and unhelpful.
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only a self inflated STEM-oid would take a joke in the OP and use it to delegitmamize an entire field of science based on vibes
having a BA in physics doesnt make you able to disprove social sciences, dont be like bobby fischer.
Sure, physicists can just keep track of about 5% of the universe's mass. That's their whole job, and they just got 5%!? Are they stupid??
Who are you to complain Brenda?! The only thing you keep track of is the amount of Oreos you have in the pantry
5% of the universe is still several trillions of tons of mass! Although I suppose a good part of that is your fat ass!
Several trillion tons of mass? I think you're off by many orders of magnitude.
You're right.
Earth itself weighs about 7 sextillion tons.
Sextillion in the short scale being to the 24th power while trillions being only 12th power.
Thanks for the correction. I was blinded by my hatred for Brenda. I was sure I was off by a lot but I couldn't bother looking it up at the time
Have they tried looking between all the couch cushions? Those tend to hide a lot of stuff.
Actually saying that socks and remote controls can sometimes turn into something that doesn't interact with the EM force would explain a lot.
As someone who spontaneously decided to study history / political science instead of physics, although I have been preparing to be a physicist the entire time, I can proudly say: At least I am happy. I spend most of my time doing fun and fulfilling things, instead of showing up at uni at 8 in the morning and arriving home at 8 in the evening just to work on homework. All my friends went into mint and they are stressed, don't have time to do anything and just seem the worst i have ever seen them.
Mint? Like Linux Mint?
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