Half of Britons wouldn't take a trip to the the moon, even in guaranteed safety : okmatewanker

[+] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 80 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

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[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 59 points 5 months ago

Me: Happy to see a meme referencing a town 20 mins from me (Stockport)

This guy: Brings it back to America.

[-] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 5 months ago

In fairness, it's probably a psychological defence mechanism put in place to prevent the mention of St*ckport causing emotional damage.

[-] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

USA-Defaultism is one hell of a drug, very popular due to the opioid epidemic.

[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I understand why they do it. After all, they do dominate western media and internet so to them it is the majority of content they see.

Edit: Although, this is feddit.uk, but again I often forget to check where I am.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago

You can just ignore that bit and focus on the part that sticks it to those damn Stopfordians!

[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago

As a Manc my major beef is with the Scouse.

Where you from for this Stockport hate?

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 5 points 5 months ago

Where you from for this Stockport hate?

I don't hate Stockport except for comedy purposes. I had a nice day out there a month or two back and it's got a lot going for it.

As a Manc my major beef is with the Scouse.

Well you aren't going to like my answer then...

[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Haha what are the odds.

Much the same as you it’s only playful hate. We got love for any northern town.

Plus 0161 > 0151 😆

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago

My Mum was from Manchester, so it makes things complicated. It's much easier to hate Southerners.

Plus 0161 > 0151

Wait until Preston hears about this kind of argument!

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[-] snooggums@midwest.social 22 points 5 months ago

I used to think that a small portion of humanity was pants on head stupid an just loud, but now it seems that the proportion is roughly half.

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Honestly, I dont think this is truly stupidity, at least beyond what is typical of everyone else, because intelligence is not the same thing as knowing facts. I dont think being uninformed is really the best word for it either, because if someone tells you something is true that conflicts with what you already think is true, just accepting this isnt really the intelligent thing to do, verifying it would be, and as most people do not have the expertise to verify most things, the best one can usually do is look to those one trusts as a source of information, and if the people that back up this new information are unknown to you but the people you already trust assure you that what you already believe to be true, is true, you dont really have a good reason to abandon that. What I think this is then is that a huge fraction of the population puts their trust in the wrong people, partly due to self perpetuating bad luck (one's parents and family are likely to be the first people one trusts, and thus whoever they trust is likely to seem trustworthy to you as well, and if you are unlucky with what group you are born into and they trust the wrong sources of information, there's therefore a decent likelihood that you will as well), and partly due to the fact that those that wish to intentionally deceive for their own ends are likely to know all kinds of psychological tricks to make themselves seem more trustworthy, and probably will be more willing to use them to manipulate public opinion to their own ends than an expert that just wants to share what they know.

or for a TLDR: I dont think counterproductive political opinions like this are a result of mass-stupidity, I think they're proof that propaganda works, and that under the right set of circumstances, you or I or anyone could be made to fall for them.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 5 months ago

Yes, belief is social. What our in-group believes is way more important for what we believe and how we change our minds than one might think.

Like, if someone is a flat-earther, changing their mind with facts and figures isn't going to be very effective. Their in-group believes otherwise. And when you come at them with contrary facts, the brain treats it similarly to a physical threat to its survival. In ancient, pre-history humans, this might have been an advantage. The guy who didn't go along with the group got left for dead. Unfortunately, modern life is more complicated.

If we want to make the world better, we should probably focus on breaking up shitty ingroups (eg: fox news, the gop) and fostering groups that are worthwhile (I can't think of an unassailable group, which may indicate another problem)

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 6 points 5 months ago

An unassailable group seems impossible given that there shitty people out there, who if they join such a group, immediately mean that someone is not necessarily trustworthy because of merely being a part of said group. Even a belief that one's group is an unassailable paragon seems problematic as if one truly thinks that one's group is unassailable, then any accusation of wrongdoing by an outsider towards a member will get dismissed, and you could get a situation like some religious groups get with priests or others that they see as inherently good and trustworthy, where when an abusive person inevitably attains that status, allegations against them are dismissed and covered up.

[-] idiomaddict@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago

That is by far the most empathetic take on the Catholic Church I’ve ever seen. I grew up catholic, and I’m not there yet, but I find it admirable that you are :)

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[-] ODuffer@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

It lacks atmosphere

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 31 points 5 months ago

So you've been to Stockport.

[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago

I actually take the M62 through Stockport to work from Manchester.

It do be like that.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 5 months ago

The A6 corridor is mentioned in the Domesday book as particularly being a wasteland.

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[-] DrCake@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Fuck all to do there init. Not even a spoons.

[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago

Nah they got knives though 🔪

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 13 points 5 months ago

They’d go if there was a crappy resort town with English speaking bartenders and a branch of Greggs.

[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago

How dare you! You're right, but how dare you.

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[-] Zeshade@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Well personally I don’t care that much. Going there is probably also a lot of faff. If it took 5h to get there “door to door” maybe. I understand the people who would like to go there, though, I completely get it.

To be given the chance to visit a safe friendly alien planet inhabited by intelligent species, now that’s something I’d like to do. Probably more for the cultural experience.

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Wallace and Gromit went to the Moon. I think they decided it was made of Wensleydale.

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[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

I would though, it would be an incredible view. But only in at least as much safety as in a car.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 17 points 5 months ago

The monkey's paw curls. You find yourself in the passenger seat of a luxurious, self-driving car, driving up into the sky with the moon directly in front of you. A speed limit sign flies past; "55 mph"

[-] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

That's a year's round trip :D

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 months ago

Pretty much everyone who has been to space claims its one of the most transformative perspective changing things they have done.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Just wait until it gets filled with tourists.

Nothing quite spoils even the most awe-inpiring experience than being surrounded by people who "just have to" vocalize (worse, as some kind of performance for those around them) how much awe inspiring the whole thing is.

Mind you, I'm an introvert, so maybe it's just me having trouble appreciating socially performative "awe".

[-] turtlepower@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

We should launch more people into space.

[-] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

Mushrooms and LSD is cheaper.

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[-] Moghul@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Damn, I'd go there even now, no need to guarantee security. Put my ass in a box to Jupiter with guaranteed no way back, I'll go.

[-] kubica@kbin.social 6 points 5 months ago

There's no one there... It's the perfect place!

[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago

Just go to your local high street.

[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Guaranteed if there were home made sausage rolls on the moon it'd be colonised within days

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago

Home made? Just open a Greggs.

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[-] BruceLee@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

What's the difference btw british and britons ?

[-] Elroy_Berdahl@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

A person can be British, in which case they are a Briton

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Only people are britons whilst anything can be british.

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago

The first is when something isn't completely brit, the second is HM Government's new cryptocurrency.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago

You can have a British car but only British people are Britons.

It gets more complicated in history as Britons referred to the Celtic people of Britain, as opposed to the Romans, then later the various other peoples who made up the rich tapestry of Middle Ages Britain: the Anglo-Saxons, the Vikings, etc. It's why the British Isles includes Ireland because the Insular Celts were once all Britons.

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[-] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

The thing is that you can't guarantee safety. Things can always go wrong. Perhaps that's why people are cautious about it.

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