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Yup, boarder towns in red states are going to start stopping women as they travel through their towns to make sure they aren't pregnant.

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[-] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 211 points 1 year ago

Lol just remember that all people that vote Republican support this.

[-] ares35@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago

most republican voters don't even know what tf they're supporting through their votes, other than their personal trigger issue. they just vote for the R.

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[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 188 points 1 year ago

Remember ~~kids~~ adults dangerously close to popping out unwanted kids, Don't talk to the police

You ain't gotta tell them where you're going, what you're doing, or why you're there. You get pulled over, hand them what they ask for and keep your mouth shut

[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago
[-] seathru@lemm.ee 69 points 1 year ago

Every day is shut the fuck up friday.

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[-] Nougat@kbin.social 66 points 1 year ago

"I decline to answer any questions without an attorney present."

"I do not consent to any search."

Tattoo those sentences on the inside of your eyelids.

[-] dion_starfire@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

The "hand them what they ask for" is important in Texas. It used to be legal to refuse to present ID unless you were being detained. As of the 1st, that's now a crime.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Woah seriously?

The "papers please" phrase has been a hyperbolic meme as the prime example of fascism, and Texas just put that into law?!

How is this not a fourth amendment violation?

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[-] flipht@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

It is crazy that you need to think like a criminal or a corporate espionage target, but...

Consider backing your phone up and then wiping it. Some business folks do this to avoid having sensitive information on devices they must hand over to the TSA. https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/how-can-i-wipe-and-restore-tablets-and-phones-for-travel/

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[-] matchphoenix@feddit.uk 87 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“Excuse me ma’am, I’m going to need to see your uterus before you can leave Texas”

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

"Blessed Be the Fruit."

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

"Ma'am please exit the vehicle and get on the mobile gyno exam bed. I'm also going to need your license, registration and a detailed lifetime sexual history. This is all very routine and for your safety I assure you."

[-] kemsat@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That has to violate the 4th Amendment.

From The Bill of Rights:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

You can’t just assume any & all pregnant women are going to get an abortion, so that’s not probable cause.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago

as if these lunatics care for the constitution and its rights, unless it benefits them.

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[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, there are already reports of police stopping women in cars on the highway to check if the women are pregnant and off to another state. The notion that a locality or state has the right to violate your privacy in order to veto your travel if it's for purposes they don't like seems impossible to square with the 4th Amendment or the Commerce Clause, but I guess that's not stopping these people

[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How could a police officer legally determine if a woman in a car is going to get an abortion or is just travelling out of state? Women may not be showing when they get an abortion and from a vantage point outside of a car you can't really tell if a woman is pregnant anyway. Plus they could just be pregnant and driving somewhere out of state. It seems like unreasonable search to stop every woman at the boarder and question them about where they are going. And on top of that why would a woman confess to going to get an abortion when stopped? Unless they had panflets and a confirmation printed out in plain view in the car it would be impossible to prove intent once a police officer pulls someone over. If they enforce this law I think there will be a lot of lawsuits about unreasonable and illegal stops by the police, and I think the women suing will win.

[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

If they enforce this law I think there will be a lot of lawsuits about unreasonable and illegal stops by the police, and I think the women suing will win.

All good points. Unfortunately, this probably means they'll stick to doing the unreasonable and illegal stops on people they think won't be able to afford to bring lawsuits.

Also, questions of 'is this actually legal?' have a fine way of becoming moot when the it's cops doing the lawbreaking and who polices the police, right? Especially in states with long history of good-old-boys justice networks

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[-] Harpsist@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

How do you say freedom in fascist American?

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 56 points 1 year ago

The last civil war was predicated by slave states sending squads north to round up any black people they find.

The next one might start because of states hunting down pregnant women outside their borders.

[-] jcit878@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

well that's a type of freedom I've not heard of before

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[-] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

The Union should have scorched earthed the South and executed all of the leaders and ex-US military officers who defected to the CSA. Instead, you allowed them to live and fester like moldy spores. Now the contagion is fruiting again.

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[-] WereCat@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It used to be an insult to mistakenly ask some woman of she's pregnant.

Now pretending to be just fat will be an ultimate defense

Edit:

This also explains why cars collect our sexual data and genetic material

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[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 year ago

The Republicans can see their power slipping as young people are becoming more aware and involved, and it seems as though they've gone into overdrive in an attempt to save their wretched ideology. Just about every day there's at least one story about them taking things to the next level, and it's gotten out of control.

Anyone who has seen the plan the Heritage Foundation laid out for replacing career experts in regulatory agencies and government offices with their own far right people in order to literally, in their own words, dismantle the administrative state, should be terrified.

They want autocracy, with them at the top. Forever. And now that it is getting more and more unlikely that could happen democratically, they're taking matters into their own hands before it's too late for them and their party dies.

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO VOTE. READ THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION'S RECENTLY RELEASED PLAN, AND FUCKING VOTE.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

Which only shows how mindfucked those people are. I mean, what will they do? Stop random cars with women inside, interrogating them and testing their blood for potential pregnancies?

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago

probably that.

ir they will put out a bounty for anyone who reports that a women they know is planning to go out of state for an abortion.

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[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

doesn't this violate freedom of travel...

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[-] morphballganon@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Cool it with the all caps titles homie

Yes it's an important topic, so it deserves attention, meaning use normal capitalization so people don't just downvote and autoblock you for excessive caps

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[-] obvs@talk.macstack.net 36 points 1 year ago

Tell me you want to ban women from leaving their homes without telling me you want to ban women from leaving their homes.

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 year ago

These Republicans are just disgusting people.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

There isn't a single freedom they won't take from us.

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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Note that the police aren’t involved. It looks like this is another one where they want other citizens to take the risk by spending their own money, for laws the cities/counties must know can’t hold up in court. However, the people most likely to be targeted also are not likely to have the funds for the protracted court battle, so this is fear and control, and wouldn’t be applied equally

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[-] MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago

So what are you in jail for?

  • driving while pregnant.
[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

I guess the Fourth Amendment only applies when convenient.

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[-] hdnsmbt@feddit.de 30 points 1 year ago

"They're also trying to create a precedent, kind of bit by bit, establishing that a fetus is a rights-holding person, or an unborn child is a rights-holding person in the law. It's a bid to eventually get that claim before the U.S. Supreme Court," Ziegler said.

This is the really concerning part. You know exactly how the SC would rule on that.

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[-] charonn0@startrek.website 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm guessing these will fall on 14th amendment grounds.

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States

Traveling to another state to access services that are illegal in your state is a privilege of US citizens.

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[-] books@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Just take away federal highway money.

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[-] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So you're telling me, you and all your pregnant friends, all six of them are on your way to the last Blockbuster on earth?

...uhm... yes?

well, that checks out. Always wanted to go, myself.

[-] iByteABit@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not from the USA, but all sensible people from there that care about living in a non fascist state should be panicking right now. Your "democracy" is now in direct threat and the people need to rise up and show that they won't let this shit pass. Besides voting, get out in the streets and protest. Do everything that needs to be done to show that the loud minority is just that, a minority.

To keep fascism from rising up, you need to be intolerant of the ones who show no tolerance. Your enemy has no moral bounds and will do anything to achieve their hateful goals, if it comes down to it then violence is not immoral if you're violent against someone who gets off on people suffering, it's self defense.

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[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

this from the party of "feedom"

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[-] Cobrachickenwing@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago

Slave catchers and preventing black people from leaving for free states. That worked well in the 1860s.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

You guys still calling it the land of the free?

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[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I wonder how long it will be before this is turned against these weirdos. "California law states you cannot drive over state lines to purchase a gun" is just the first thing that came to mind.

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