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D.C. ethics board recommends Rudy Giuliani be disbarred (www.cnbc.com)

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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 110 points 5 months ago

Rudy had a 'broken windows' policy as Mayor of New York. The idea was that little things like broken windows and petty crimes in a neighborhood emboldened people to do much worse things. That meant that beggars and fare jumpers were locked up instead of just being fined.

By his own logic Rudy should be in prison.

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 22 points 5 months ago

What...? That's insane. The point of a broken window policy is to encourage urban cleanliness, fixing things and making places nicer. Because people are less likely to commit greater crimes in places that look like nice. Not to punish people committing tiny crimes harshly.

[-] teejay@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

Encouraging cleanliness is not the point at all. The point is: "... policing methods that target minor crimes, such as vandalism, loitering, public drinking and fare evasion, help to create an atmosphere of order and lawfulness. " Source.

In the specific case that OP is referring to with Giuliani and NYC: "Bratton directed the police to more strictly enforce laws against subway fare evasion, public drinking, public urination, and graffiti."

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I think previous the preceding comment was about the administration’s propaganda about the “broken windows” policy, not the actual directives of the policy.

Thanks for posting the source and details. More of us need to know this.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 months ago

Rudy didn't give a fuck. He wanted an excuse for cops to arrest and menace the underclasses and he got it. The cops loved him for it.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago

Like TeeJay wrote, it was an excuse to go after the weakest on the theory that it would deter the strong.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

That was never the point. It was always a ruse to mistreat the vulnerable.

[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

He follows the usual paternalistic logic of Republicans. Don't let people get off light for petty crime, because then they'll abuse it and do worse stuff since they can get away with the small stuff. Whole "Spare the Rod" bullshit.

[-] jobby@lemmy.today 7 points 5 months ago

I’d settle for ‘set on fire on 5th Ave’.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 months ago

Best argument I've heard against ole' Rutabaga. I didn't even need to comment except to call him Rutabaga. Poor chap. Fuck 'em.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 43 points 5 months ago

“Taking away the mayor’s law license is meant to discourage lawyers from representing clients like President Donald Trump or anyone else who is willing to take on the prevailing political establishment,” he added.

The majority of attorneys that have represented Trump in his civil and criminal trials have not been disbarred; only the ones that are committing crimes have been. The biggest discouragement to lawyers had been Trump's unwillingness to pay the legal bills he owes, coupled with Trump's unwillingness to follow legal counsel.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 40 points 5 months ago

That is my recommendation as well.

[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 24 points 5 months ago

I prefer disbarred and then behind bars.

[-] neidu2@feddit.nl 15 points 5 months ago

Eat shit, Rudy

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

It's ironic, because his future will include lots of bars.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

To be fair, his past and present also include a variety of bars.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

[-] jobby@lemmy.today 5 points 5 months ago

Bit late eh?

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