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[-] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 142 points 5 months ago

Don't know if this has been fixed but Gemini was telling people it's unethical to teach people C++ or memory management.

Because it's considered "memory unsafe" but Gemini took it literally and considered it to unsafe to teach.

[-] RustyNova@lemmy.world 79 points 5 months ago

proud Rust developer

Joke aside, everytime people gush over AI, I always have to remind them that AI is just a puppy that learnt how to maximise treats, and not actually understand shit. And this is a perfectly good example.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

Right??? I’m continually floored by how many genuinely smart people I come across who ignore this concept, which is one of the biggest reasons I just don’t trust LLMs in a general sense. Like sure, I can use them fairly effectively, but the vast majority of the people who interact with LLMs don’t use a level of caution with them that’s appropriate.

And that doesn't even touch on the huge ethical (and legal) issues around how LLM devs acquire and use training data.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

Dogs are way more intelligent than that. LLM tech is basically a way to quickly breed fruit flies to fly right or left when they see a particular pattern.

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[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 23 points 5 months ago
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[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 111 points 5 months ago

It's called "ethnic group condition"

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 78 points 5 months ago

No, you can't say "master," either.

[-] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

That one i get at least. But race condition is using race in the sense of a competition.

[-] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 106 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You do? Because I don't. There is nothing racist about the concept of master. Is a masterpiece racist? Are master tapes, Are post-graduate degrees racist? We may as well declare "work" insensitive because slaves had to work.

Don't get me wrong, there are many terms we should adjust. I just can't see how "master" is one of them.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 56 points 5 months ago

I'd argue that abolishing the term "slave" isn't the worst idea, implying that the word "master," only in context where it's paired with "slave," should go as well - but that, of course, requires nuance, which a simple word filter lacks.

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 52 points 5 months ago

This. To avoid the "master" branch on our git to be associated with "slave" I now name new branches "bitch"

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago

There aren't "slaves" in git, though. The term "master" in that context is that of a master copy.

[-] steventhedev@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Nope. Bitkeeper used it in the master-slave pairing and the term was carried forward. Gitlab did a whole writeup about it.

[-] xilona@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago

"Historically, the default name for this initial branch was master. This term came from Bitkeeper, a predecessor to Git. Bitkeeper referred to the source of truth as the "master repository" and other copies as "slave repositories". This shows how common master/slave references have been in technology, and the difficulty in knowing how the term master should be interpreted."

Excerpt from the link the other member posted above! You're welcome!

[-] Miaou@jlai.lu 7 points 5 months ago

It's funny, because a quick online search shows gitlab runs operations in Saudi Arabia. But at least a bunch of idiot westerners get to feel good about themselves 🤷‍♂️

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

Just skip the intermediate naming conventions and go straight to dom/sub

[-] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 5 months ago

And yet there's a big push to rename git "master" branches, which have no slave connotations and are more analogous to master recordings.

Its not like I'll fight it, but it's stupid.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

It is stupid, and it's because of a failure to understand the nuance.

I will not inconvenience myself or anyone else by making any changes to existing configurations, which will surely break workflows, but I don't give a shit what the main branch is called as long as it's obvious.

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[-] FederatedSaint@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Why abolish the word slave? I've heard of people advocating for abolishing the word "black" also. It's crazy to me. I don't understand how using the word at all somehow advocates for human slavery.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

It draws unfortunate parallels.

I do agree that the proposals to abolish "black" feel a bit misguided though surely well-intentioned; the etymology of "blacklist," for example, has no relation to race whatsoever. However, there are unfortunate parallels with how "black" and "white" people were and indeed are still treated differently.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 7 points 5 months ago

Humans, conversely, are incredibly talented at deciphering nuance, except when they don’t want to.

[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

It upsets some people. It doesn't affect the end user. The terms "Bull Branch" and "Cuck Branch" will make stand up meeting more fun.

[-] bob_lemon@feddit.de 14 points 5 months ago

Isn't the master branch the submissive one? Always behind, getting force fed content from the other branches.

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[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I guess it could be construed as racist when it's literally "master/slave". But I have never seen it as a normalization of slavery because there usually is no value attached to the terms, it's just describing the relation between them. And I don't think acknowledging that a slave generally doesn't have much say in doing what their master tells them is racist in itself or endorsing/normalizing slavery.

But also, I am white, and there are other terms we can use that can describe this kind of relation just fine, so, whatever. I just get mildly annoyed when some stuff that was working perfectly fine gets deprecated just to change these terms and I have to adapt to it.

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[-] ignotum@lemmy.world 62 points 5 months ago

Race conditions can make you a racist,
If you

  1. Are behind the wheel of a racecar
  2. You are on a racetrack

Then there's no nice way to say it, you might be a racist, drive safe

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 5 months ago

go speed racist, go speed racist, go speed racist, go!

[-] DudeDudenson 56 points 5 months ago

Wait until you try to do something that involves managing child processes

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Can't the master kill all slaves and childs (processes)? It's in the manual!

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

At work we don't have the right to use master/slave (maître /esclave) anymore because of history (this is mostly linked to deploying systems). On the upside our git master is now the shorter 'main'.

[-] Miaou@jlai.lu 8 points 5 months ago

Ugh this kind of BS virtue signaling is so pointless

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago

"kill parent or sacrifice children"

[-] x0x7@lemmy.world 46 points 5 months ago
[-] mo_lave@reddthat.com 10 points 5 months ago

The future is regarded in a low light.

[-] kasuaaliucceli@sopuli.xyz 43 points 5 months ago

Maybe they should use AI to filter the AI.

[-] SilverCode@lemm.ee 39 points 5 months ago

The other day I used the JetBrains AI to write some boilerplate code for me. The JetBrains AI code analyser then kicked in to tell me how poorly written the code was.

[-] aquinteros@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

that's how you know they use stack overflow to train the models

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[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

Ask it for the final solution

[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 22 points 5 months ago

Moderating AI is dumb. This is the result.

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 18 points 5 months ago

Good old Scunthorpe problem

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[-] bamfic@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

conditon. wrong is this? what with race

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

It's incredible that this is such a big point of debate. This kind of thing is really ignoring the material reality of racism in favor of the minutiae. Let's have some 40 acres and a mule, then we can start talking about race conditions.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 7 points 5 months ago

What’s wrong with being racy?

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