No Stupid Questions

Well, they'll sometimes tell you a reason you got a ban, but not the reason you got a ban.

Smaller community size. It is a lot easier to moderate a small community instead of a large one.

It is also the reason why Reddit moderators fought the API ban. Reddit moderators had developed their own tech stack to help them moderate the very large subs. Lemmy isn't at the size where those tools are needed.

Yeah ₙₒ. The few times I’ve been banned or had my comment removed on reddit, I was told that it happened. On Lemmy, the reason listed is just as obscure and esoteric, but you have to seek it out yourself to even find out it happened

Reddit banned me for a comment that they interpreted as pro Hamas, but never came out and said it, despite the “check your inbox” banner.

fewer ppl, more time

Give it time. Lemmy will become like Reddit given enough use base and time. It’s inevitable.

It's not - it's always up to the mod/admin's discretion to tell you the reason why you were banned, and just like on reddit it's usually bullshit that they won't elaborate on.

I have been banned from multiple communities that I've never even so much as visited, let alone commented in or posted a topic on, with zero reason given. I've messaged the mod who did it (after they tried to hide it by having the log just say "mod" instead of their username, but there is a way to find out the actual mods name), and they just ignore the messages.

Lemmy sucks at this, what are you on about?

It doesn't tell you. You have to check manually, and the mod/admin can literally hide entries on the log if they wanted to (as well as not bother with typing out a reason or give a bs one).

I like Lemmy a lot, but the way you are informed of mod actions against you is absolute dogshit.

The public modlog is one of the best features of Lemmy, IMO. When a Lemmy user appeals to the public of stuff mods/admins have done, we can call BS on them since we can read through stuff if they've been toxic, or if it's the mods on a power-trip, or if it's controversially borderline but reasonable discretion given the circumstances.

Because Lemmy is moderated by human beings.

i was just banned for "multiple violations" like 1min ago but they didn't say what i did.

Reddit will tell you why you were banned. It generates a PM with the reason and a link to the offending post.

For example, I was banned for inciting violence towards a protected group of people… in reference to saying child predators should face stiffer legal penalties. Someone took it the wrong (or maybe right) way because their president is in the Epstein files. Honestly I wasn’t even thinking of him but if the prison jumpsuit fits… anyway, it was not a mystery to me.

I did appeal in case AI flagged me but a human upheld it.

But as to why Lemmy is better in that regard… more open platform trying to improve upon the formula of those that came before. Also run by people not corporations. And not operated by the GOP.

Sometimes. Some servers will "rule 1" you and rule one basically amounts to "don't say things I don't like."

And then sometimes you say the Tiflis bank robbery was bad because they blew up innocent people on the street with grenades, and then a guy responds that "it was pretty cool actually," and then you get banned for saying "well I hope something cool happens to you then" in an attempt to get them to empathize with the victims by putting themselves as the victim instead if the "pretty cool" robbers, despite being the one who in practice is against the murder of innocents, and then you can't tell if you were banned because the mod couldn't process the context of the thread or because they were a tankie who agrees murdering innocents is, in fact, pretty cool. I mean, sure I was being rude becauase I'm not usually nice when people say murdering innocents in the process of a bank robbery is "pretty cool," so, 50/50, but it's still silly.

And then sometimes you get banned because one person on your server has an argument with one mod on another and the second mod decides to ban your whole instance as a result because he's totally not butthurt.

It's a little more transparent, but this place can be just as silly as reddit.

Think of Reddit as Cyberpunk or Mirror's Edge: a world controlled by corporations instead of governments. A corporation only seeks its own interests and those of its shareholders. In that world, you're nothing. There's no transparency, and you don't have any rights.

Lemmy instances on the other hand are run by the community and funded by donations. As such, the interests of the group as a whole prevail; they are not the interests of shareholders. To maintain cohesion, transparency is necessary, hence the modlog. Without transparency, cohesion and community cannot be maintained.

Reddit and Lemmy are two completely different worlds.

I was banned for using a slur. I was quoting a line from a movie (in quotation marks) in a post about that movie. It was so obviously a quote.

That's very subjective.

Both platforms have the option for mods to tell you exactly what you did wrong; and on both, sometimes they utilize that option sometimes they don't.

It's entirely up to the individual mods in each specific community.

Lemmy does generally tend to be a bit more open; just because it's a growing platform looking to expand its userbase, so the mods make a bit more of an effort to create peace/understanding vs just ban hammering any problems into oblivion.

Reddits grown big enough that it can throw its weight around a bit carelessly and have less worry of the userbase collapsing.

I got banned from jai.lu, reason "reactionary"

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It feels pretty similar

You either get banned with a copy/paste response that doesn't actually apply, or you get nothing

The worst harassment gets banned with the right reason, but there are tons of bans where the person with the power just didn't like you.

Sometimes it's a tactic to discourage escalation because it adds confusion.

There's no central authority forcing things to be one way or the other, so to the extent that there are differences they are cultural in nature.

I'd assume the biggest reason, in addition to what others have said, is the difference in user numbers. It's a lot easier to be a good mod at this scale than at the massive scale of Reddit, especially with the rampant AI bots, and without powerful tools like defederation, the clearly visible mod log, etc.

I'd assume most people bothering to moderate, even on Reddit, intend to do a good job with every report, but being overworked forces people's hand.