That's bot the middle we're talking about. Trump ran on right policy (and "policy) both elections and won.

What actually happens is that every time the Dems rely on the left they lose.

Obama says what the fuck are you—oh it's that guy again. Just do your thing.

I think its important to ask the people saying that to name specific examples of HOW they were too left leaning.

When I do I get nonsense about hope and change and how leftists didn't show up when they should have to prevent fascism.

There is no way to read or infer that from their comment without some serious preconceived notions. That person made a statement of fact. They did not say anything about their opinion on the goodness or badness of that statement of fact.

Doesn't matter; she's still getting imprisoned for exercising her right to free speech.

Ok Junge,

This is amazing (I don't speak Germany don't shout at me pls).

She lost before Michigan finished counting. She could've won Michigan and she would still lost. Source: Subtract 15 from Trump's EC votes.

Okay you clearly aren't interested in actually learning anything. Have a good day.

Find me data tying veils and low public safety before saying that.

We also want to congratulate our friends in the Republican party, they played a great game and we can’t wait to work with them more.

Republican National Committee Chair Michael Whatley is excited to see his colleagues at the DNC make the same mistakes over and over.

This is amazing.

“I saw how the DNC ignored voters, I saw how they talked down to people, and that just made my job easy. I go in and say ‘Democrats think you’re dumb, but Republicans think you’re a genius’ and these dopes eat it up like the slop they feed their pigs.

Holy fuck is this even satire anymore? I can literally see a GOP campaign official say that in private.

You're wrong that it didn't impact the outcome. MI flipped to Trump directly because of the uncommitted movement.

I mean maybe (I haven't seen the turnout numbers as opposed to protest/non-voters) but the point is that Harris lost before Michigan even finished counting. She could've won Michigan and she still wasn't winning this, is the point.

Low turn out also directly impacted the results. PA is a different story, but low turn out was true there, too

I mean yeah, because the DNC pushed an unelectable candidate whose position was a mix of "nothing will fundamentally change", wishy washy non-promises and right wing positions. I doubt even 10% of the 15 million in reduced turnout came from Uncommitted and similar movements. The DNC blew it; it's that simple.

Before I start let me note that in the end this particular group of people didn't affect the election. Harris is on the way to losing all swing states. Her failure is much deeper than Gaza policy. Blaming anti-genocide voters for this is just copium.

With that out of the way, you can divide people with this position into two groups: Arab Americans and everyone else. Arab Americans are people who are feeling the genocide firsthand. So, obviously, they tried to appeal to the Harris campaign and get them to move from Biden's position on the topic. The result: They were either ignored or antagonized by Harris. That led to the abandon Harris campaign in Michigan and elsewhere. Harris considered those people acceptable casualties in her failure of a campaign, and so they were burnt out and the momentum behind the Uncommitted movement and others turned from "let's save our Palestinian brothers" to "fuck us and Palestine (because let's face it, that's basically what Harris was saying)? Then fuck you too". Harris thew them under the bus and was thrown under the bus in turn. Maybe not very logical, but a very predictable reaction. Harris treated Arab Americans with just that much contempt, and then she and her enablers had the gall to tell the people attending a funeral every other day to "shut up and vote for her".

Now as for everyone else, it's a more simple instance of taking a stand against a politician for doing something you cannot accept. Now there is a pragmatic idea here that if you allow the DNC to get away with this they'll think supporting genocide actually wins elections, or that their electorate are such pussies that it doesn't matter what they think. Add in the goal of pressuring Harris to drop that policy that was important at the start of the Harris campaign and of course the idea of not wanting to vote for genocide and this was the result.

Of course it's not all 100% logical, but there is logic here beyond "omg bad guy I no vote".