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[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 51 points 10 hours ago

I literally see voters saying the Democrats were too left leaning, jfc.

With parties like this, painful collapse is the only way to avoid multigenerational destitution.

There is no saving the United States as a framework. It is far too compromised, with too many methods installed to keep the people willfully ignorant and infighting as the owners suck their life forces dry for profit.

We can limp along and pretend that isn't the case, but climate change, aka the reality that doesn't give a shit about our self-delusion and greed worship, will force that collapse sooner rather than later. Reality can't be bribed, deluded, disappeared, or discredited.

Enjoy living in delusion that a society can function in capitalist competition against itself, the ability to do so is coming to an end.

[-] knova@infosec.pub 11 points 7 hours ago

I literally see voters saying the Democrats were too left leaning, jfc.

I think its important to ask the people saying that to name specific examples of HOW they were too left leaning. People just want to hurt someone now because they are hurt - it doesn't matter if they are punching left or right, if they perceive something as landing, it makes them feel better.

I am seeing Liberals online blaming minorities for not showing up when the reality is, across the board Dem voters didn't show up.

[-] daltotron@lemmy.ml 2 points 44 minutes ago

The most I've seen anyone able to manifest is that she wasn't an old white man, and instead, she was too radical, because she was black, indian, and a woman. I have seen milquetoast liberals saying this, black people saying this, indians saying this, and women saying this. I don't really know how true it is, and I guess I never will know because she really didn't run a good enough campaign for me to actually run any sort of postmortem analysis relative to someone else's real turnout, because she wasn't even a baseline democrat, she ran below the baseline in terms of promises. She campaigned with dick "killed a million people" cheney and his wife. I dunno. somehow I don't believe that it's because democrat voters are just super racist or sexist or whatever.

[-] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Thats why Im blaming all the dem voters who didnt show for not showing

[-] DiagnosedADHD@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Stop blaming the voters. It's the same shit every damn time. The DNC failed America. After Clinton they should've learned, but they just do the same shit every time.

They double down every time they roll Clinton out like we care. What we need is a party that's fighting for us, not one that expects votes because the other guy sucks.

We all should be pissed at the lack of leadership that has enabled this outcome. Pointing fingers at each other solves zero issues. What'll happen is 3 years go by and Democrats roll out another neocon establishment pick and we'll just go oh well it's too late to fix anything. Things need to change now before the next cycle starts. We have a lot of work to do.

[-] patacon_pisao@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Exactly. Blaming others before recognizing your own shortcomings is a shitty strategy and it will only serve to alienate people who could otherwise be your champion if you didn’t attack them.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 4 hours ago

I think its important to ask the people saying that to name specific examples of HOW they were too left leaning.

When I do I get nonsense about hope and change and how leftists didn't show up when they should have to prevent fascism.

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[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world -4 points 2 hours ago

To those suggesting the solution is to go farther left, you're delusional

The best thing you can hope for, is the farthest left, electable candidate

Based on the state of play, the winning ticket in 2028 I would project to be Manchin/Witmer

AOC is never going to be prez (unfortunately) in her lifetime. The country is not ready for that

In case you are doubting reality, note that a far-right populist just won the popular vote in a landslide, bury your head in the sand all you like, its not going to move your agenda forward

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

Sorry, you're in an echo chamber saying the wrong thing. Smells like reddit in here.

[-] Rice_Daddy@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago

No, the path to an election win isn't to appeal to the far right cult and hope that enough of them switch sides. They appealed to people switching sides this election and it failed miserably.

Some ways needs to be found to energise your own base, and find a crisis to run on, real or exaggerated.

There are many other things too of course, but this isn't an essay. Last thing I'd say is that just because one side embraced lunacy, it doesn't mean the other side has to

[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 80 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

“To all those growing skeptical of this party’s strategies and overall agenda, let me just say we hear you loud and clear. Rest assured we will be doing everything short of interpreting that sound into words and responding to those words in any way shape or form.”

This is an all-timer.

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