TranscendentalEmpire

visited the foothills once

Again, projecting....

Yeah. That's what i said. I didn't say we would stay healthy, i said they couldn't starve the people without going hungry themselves.

Lol, shifting the goal post ....your original claim was that people in certain areas would be fine living off the land if the government theoretically cut off the food supply. You then shifted the argument to the government cannot shut off the food supply. You then went into some weird delusional fantasy that Californians would rise up and take down aircraft carriers with missiles.

Yeah they own stuff. But i buy my groceries from these peoples' families, and they arent all cool with this.

Aren't cool with isn't the same as willing to indulge your weird ass fantasy land where they become freedom fighters.

Yes some people are willing to do violence to preserve their rights, but most people are just trying to live their lives and fly under the radar. Which is why history is filled with tragedy and injustice.

But you just kind of ignored everything i said so you could say something technically true and put it where a response to me would go.

What part did I ignore? You brought up incorrect facts about the CCP and the Black Panthers, which I addressed accurately.

I just think you like to speak before you think. We're not in a romantic novel, life is hard and the good guys don't always win. I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm just trying to temper your optimism with the reality of what happens to the vast majority of revolutionary forces.

Don't get me started

You were the one who brought it up?

So i got you?

So you don't know what projection is?

original comment I responded to was "let's not act like a gun control zealot is what the US "left" needs right now".

Yeah.....? And your response was so off point that even you decided it was worth deleting.

Right now, we don't have those stricter gun control laws, so your theoretical universe with the slippery slope is irrelevant.

Lol, the person you were responding to was specifically calling out David Hoggs and the DNC dying on the hill of gun control.

This is a race for NY Mayor, and Mamdani is exactly what we need right now.

Wut? We were specifically talking about David hogg what does mamdani have to do with our conversation? You might remember what you were talking about about if you didn't delete your own comment, fucking coward.

Look at a map. Talk to the people in all the places you'd have to go through. Maybe if they let this die down, and start it with something other than a police action. But if this goes hot? From fed cops? No. The sierra-nevadas may as well be in afghanistan.

I used to live in the Western foothills of the valley..... it's mostly empty rolling hills dude.

The logistics of getting food to stores is complex and it really wouldn't take much but some instability to cause major food insecurity in the majority of the country.

True, it wont be universal. I'm even seeing people in OC upset about this though, and if the admin's lost them, they've lost every major foothold with californians. Maybe downtown palo alto, for about five minutes. Maybe san diego, if they skew the demographics with a few aircraft carriers-but theres not much food between there, mexico, and the mountains.

I think you are overestimating the amount of people who would transition from being upset to taking up arms against the government. Most people barely pay attention to politics.

You don't even know what a maoist 'people's war' even is, and that's likely the doctrine they'll start with. You certainly don't know who the panthers were, or the kinds of people they were. You don't know what or where you're talking about.

Lol, the CCP were fighting with much more than just small arms. They and the kmt were both supplied by the US and the Soviets against the Japanese.

You certainly don't know who the panthers were, or the kinds of people they were. You don't know what or where you're talking about.

The Black Panthers never went to war with a military..... Fred Hampton was murdered by regular cops with pistols shotguns and rifles.

Just because I don't buy into your delusion that all of California is going to rise up and defeat aircraft carriers with som Glock and some semi auto rifles, doesn't mean I don't know about leftist revolutions.

Chuds can't and wont do real work. Not in numbers, anyway.

Chuds already manage the farms and ranches in Cali.

Notoriously productive resilient and efficient with their military resources: Slave States!

Yes, because there's no historical evidence of militant police states being able to feed themselves......

You play too many fucking map view strategy games. Go outside, maybe read a book. Or at least play the more complicated map games.

Lol, dude. You are projecting.... You sound exactly like all the come and take it right winged chuds who thinks they're going to turn into Rambo over night.

Something wrong with the fuel system was my initial armchair guess, but I'm not so sure based off the second vid. One would expect to see some yaw or rolling in an underpowered or lost of power take off with a jet.

Guess we'll have to wait until someone more qualified explains it.

Based on the article he wasn't even handing out a mask that would hide people's identity. They state it was a face shield similar to what police use....which are clear. Sounds like they just arrested a dude for handing out water and PPE because people are being shot in the face.

I just saw that video and it is really strange. Not so much that rat hasn't been deployed, I don't think they lost hydraulics or electronics and I'm not sure they even reached the minimum speed where the rat would really help.

The strange thing is that it didn't really look like there was very much yaw or rolling which you would expect to see with a fuel system failure. They seemed to be flying straight as an arrow and gliding it down?

Maybe something wrong with thrust control? Kinda crazy.

Unless they're airlifting it all out. In which case it still has to fly over terrain that's not to their advantage.

Why would they have to fly anything out of the valley? If the military is able to secure supply lines in war zones that have more than small arms resistance I don't think it's going to be a challenge to secure them in Cali.

we also make the missiles here.

Who's we? It's not like the entire country is going to support a rebellion, especially not anyone in the military industrial complex. Even if you have missiles, you don't have the weapons platforms or even know how to operate them.

The best option for them would be the port of oakland. Theres lots of shitty tech bros there, but you still see tributes to the best and best dressed mlm's to ever pick up a rifle, some of whom are, while far past fighting age, still kicking around a dense high tech city-and this would be for their food supply line, so it wouldn't exactly be possible to starve them out.

What are you talking about? Why would food have to go to Oakland? You don't ship food from California to the rest of the country on boats.... Nor are some old dudes with small arms going to be able to do anything to military convoy.

The farms are all staffed by people who hate them. Every single one, not just here but especially here. Even the small/mid sized farmers-and i have talked to them-hate this shit, or are literally beibg chased out of the fields, literally as i type this. The logistics lines are disproportionately worked by those same people.

Work gangs, prison labour, political prisoners, hungry people willing to capitulate to feed their families.....you know the same thing that has happened throughout history. Plus, there's plenty of conservative chuds in the valley.

For multi engine planes it's pretty rare, most likely a fuel system failure, or less likely pilot throttling error. My money would be on something with the fuel system.

Runs business dependent on under paying his immigrant employees.....votes for president that is claiming he will kick out all the immigrant workers.... profit?

How fucking braindead are these people? You'd think I would get used to being illuminated to just how ignorant a large sector of the population is, but every time it just feels like a kick in the teeth.

Hope this guy ends up fucking homeless.

I'm not sure they could control the means of production here.

You don't think a military force could control the supply line of some farmers? Most of which are already owned by large conglomerates that would gladly follow the orders of the government.....

A lot of it is in and around areas that arent ideal terrain for fighting on their side.

Have you been to the central valley? It's just large open fields and orchards surrounded by gentle rolling hills, it's not the fucking korengal valley my dude.

I agree in part, but I also think that the adoption of thirdway politics by the boomers led to the material conditions that is the real reason why so many young people are so susceptible to radicalization.

If younger people were granted the educations and careers that were offered to older generations, they're wouldn't really be a reason for them to need to find a scapegoat for all their problems.

Lol, it's not. The IRS doesn't care about your brokerage sales unless you're liable for a capital gains tax, which wouldn't happen if you are not making a profit.

Plus, if they received a huge pile of paper about your trades that didn't include a 1099-b, which is literally just like 1/4 of a sheet of paper....they would just request it from your brokerage.

Anyone who thinks the IRS is some evil org has just never done their own taxes and listens to propaganda from billionaires who don't think taxes should exist.

If you've ever really had a legal problem with the IRS, you were more than likely purposely evading taxes and deserve the trouble. They are actually really reasonable to work with, and usually bend backwards to resolve the issue in several different ways before pursuing anyone legally.