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[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 42 points 2 days ago

We need to slowdown YouTube and get an alternative that is viable for people and creators. The problem in this case is creators and brands, almost no creators would continue doing videos if there's no money at the end

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 19 points 2 days ago

The problem with money being involved is it's an invitation to spam crap everywhere.

One of my relatives has recently taken up "AI travel videos" and "AI cute videos" as a "hobby". No doubt based on the first thing that came up when I searched for those things, a video titled "make $10,000 a month spamming up YouTube with your AI slop".

Oh, and it needs you to buy the AI slop generating tools that they happen to sell. How convenient!

I mean, this also happened with broadcast TV, where we suddenly went from like 4 channels filled with programs and things competing for space, to 200 channels, where the rush was on to fill the gaps between the adverts as cheaply as possible with reality show tat. And that's all YouTube is now.

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

The other problem is storage and bandwidth.

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

The solution is decentralization of the web

[-] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

So now the problem is sharing your IP with every member of the P2P swarm.

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

Not really because sharing an IP is nothing that important

[-] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

Not if it used Veiled

[-] Teils13@lemmy.eco.br 8 points 2 days ago

There is the PeerTube network, which works like Lemmy.

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

This is one the best YouTube alternative but needs to be adopt massively

[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 8 points 2 days ago

Start using it and ask content creators to also put their content on there.

[-] sentientity@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

It's subscription based, but Nebula is creator owned I believe. Sucks though that everything free gets acquired by some extractive company.

[-] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago

Odysee is actually doing amazing. The interface is great and the speed is even better than Youtube at the moment.

They are however swithing their core structure from one blockchain powered storage model to another one, so at the moment it's a bit guesswork and could possibly turn out very bad. (ArWeave bought them...)

Regarding the far right content on the platform; yes, there is a bit of it, but I have only once come across it, and I was actually browsing some categories relating to politics. So in normal usage, following content creators and checking what Odysee is featuring, you'll not come across them. But even if you do, Odysee's block/mute functionality works better than the one on YouTube.

[-] Doburoku@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Nah a little alt right content is entirely too much.

[-] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 days ago
[-] 0x0@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sure, but that doesn't mean that one should willfully fraternize with idiots lol Troglodytes should be shunned, nothing wrong about that.

[-] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago

Freedom of speech for me but not for thee

[-] 0x0@infosec.pub 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

See that's the cute thing.They can have their free speech right there, but freedom also means the for most people obvious choice not to associate with nazis and other similiar troglodytes.

And as you said yourself, it already seems to be a popular hole for said miscreants, so why even bother with it.

[-] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago

As I said, you don't even notice them except if you look for them.

Odysee also has very good block/muting, much better than that of YouTube.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Something community owned and a non-profit would be good.

[-] gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago

They're already halfway there /s

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Right, but again the problem is creators

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

We probably need to have some kind of business that links up people looking for ads with in video monetization. Of course sponsor block Will negate that to some decent extent.

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago
[-] Teils13@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 2 days ago

VK Video is indeed probably close to it, being a quasi state company. Theoretically they can not maximize profit extraction in all spaces, and keep the videos without unlimited propaganda. But Rutube is a profit-seeking company that is just smaller scale youtube. Let's see how the 1st will evolve over time.

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago
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