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Element X, Call and Server Suite are production ready (element.io)

submitted 3 months ago by pnutzh4x0r@lemmy.ndlug.org to c/opensource@lemmy.ml

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Element is launching the world’s first communications platform based on the upcoming Matrix 2.0 release. The result is blazing performance which outperforms the mainstream alternatives - across a decentralised system that enables self-hosting and end-to-end encryption - as well as open standard interoperability to revolutionise real time communication between large organisations.

Built on Matrix 2.0, Element X now rivals the performance of centralised consumer messaging apps, empowering organisations to address the shadow IT issues caused by consumer-grade messaging apps in the workplace.

The new Element communications solution consists:

Element X, our next-gen app with an array of new features

Element Call fully integrated into Element X, for native Matrix-encrypted voice and video

Element Server Suite, our backend hosting solution for powerful admin control and Matrix 2.0 performance

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[-] brrt@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago

I don’t like what I see in the iOS app stores privacy section for the app.

[-] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 35 points 3 months ago

Element is able to use features called "Integration Manager" and "Identity Server". When using an Identity Server, you can choose to link name, email, and phone number to your Matrix account. When using an Integration Manager, there's a feature to share your location with others in chat.

As such, Vector discloses that they "collect this information", although (except some diagnostics), this is completely optional.

(I am not associated with Vector, just interested in Matrix)

[-] grimer@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Ah interesting ok. So basically even though it CAN link all of that info to you and such doesn't mean that it WILL if you opt out of things. Is that correct?

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Even better.

It's opt-in instead of opt -out

[-] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 8 points 3 months ago

Correct, Vector does not receive this information unless you willingly share it with them.

[-] grimer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Ok thank you

[-] brrt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Strange. I could only find vector settings in the regular Element app. And even stranger, it prompts me with “Accept Identity Server Terms” but if I tap on the identity server option it says “You are currently using vector…”. I also cannot disconnect unless I accept the terms. I really wish all of this was more clear.

[-] D_Air1@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

The way permissions are listed on mobile operating these days is honestly pretty misleading.

For example, I know some apps that need to request network permission even though they don't need to connect to the internet. Not because they want to do anything shady, but because they legitably have to in order to get certain info.

Not to mention the problem of listing everything an app can do as if it is doing all of those things.

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

Correct any personal info is opt-in, ie; you can put your phone number and email in if you want to make it easier for friends to find you.

[-] grimer@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Seriously, WTF?!

[-] sweng@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago

What do you find WTF about it?

[-] grimer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

That’s a lot of data collection.

[-] sweng@programming.dev 20 points 3 months ago

That's the problem with how the app store presents privacy info: without context it's nearly meaningless. "may be collected". It's optional, but that's not show here. The Play store does show that these are all optional.

"Collected" is also a scary word here. Having my location "collected" sounds scary, but what it actually may mean is that I can optionally and explicitly share my location with a contact.

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

Notice it says "MAY be collected", because if you want to you can share your phone number, email, etc with the app to allow people to find you easier.

Same with location and stuff like that, if you use an option to share your location or connect to bluetooth devices it will obviously need your location permission.