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[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I would kill for an LSD source.

Shrooms make me feel so much more self-conscious when I'm tripping for some reason. LSD is much more enjoyable to me, but much harder to source as you can't just grow it yourself from an internet kit.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 29 points 3 weeks ago

And there's such a thing as bad LSD, which really sucks. Those quasi-legal, almost LSD analogues often sold as genuine LSD, but with glitchy side-effects.

Legalized drugs can be regulated and quality-controlled, and should be. Fuck Reagan for many, many reasons, including his "war on drugs."

[-] DogWater@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

That is a bit older than Reagan, war on drugs is a Nixon thing, but I agree with the general sentiment. Fuckem both.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago

Arguably it goes back to the end prohibition era and the outlawing of marijuana.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

And the marijuana stuff leads back to both the tobacco and wood fiber industries. Cannabis is a threat to tobacco, and hemp is a threat to darn near everything wood fiber is used for. That one even more so because it grows so dramatically faster than a new forest.

[-] DogWater@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I have heard of this. I remember reading once that sailing ships used hemp for their cloth because it was plentiful and durable. No idea where I saw that though

[-] DogWater@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Definitely, but he was the one with the campaign that was named, or became known as "the war on drugs," unless I'm tripping

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I think he just comes to mind first because of the whole "D.A.R.E" thing, and his horrible effects on literally everything are still felt so profoundly today.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Since 1P-LSD has been available the chances of getting nBOMe'd are much lower.

One might think that easy access to drugs is actually safer.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

1P gives me anxiety. It's on my no-fly list.

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Can you just go get a bunch of morning glory seeds and eat those instead? They're packed full of LSA, which feels very similar.

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Holy shit, thanks for the rabbit hole friend!

This looks promising! I haven't done my six month mental refresh in 2 years. Might be a lovely weekend 🤞

[-] AugustWest@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Store bought seeds ~~probably~~ have nasty pesticides all over them so I would not recommend this. Not to mention it takes a ton of morning glory seeds. If you really want to try this, I would recommend ordering some Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds.

That said…the mental and visual effects are very different from LSD, LSA has a MASSIVE body load that most people find extremely unpleasant, and the experience is many times coupled with hours of extreme nausea.

Depending on your country you may be able to legally or semi-legally be able to buy an LSD pro-drug (chemical that breaks down into LSD so is essentially the same thing) such as 1P-LSD or 1D-LSD.

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Or he could just do a cwe extraction.

[-] AugustWest@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

That would not solve the issues of pesticides, body load, or completely different effects and would likely have minimal impact on nausea.

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

It certainly helps with the vasoconstriction ("body load"). It somewhat helps with the nausea as well.

[-] AugustWest@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Vasoconstriction is not the cause of the unpleasant body load from LSA or at least not the primary cause. Not to mention that there is no reason a “cold water extraction” would have any effect on the vasoconstrictive substance’s level of vasoconstriction. I also said in my previous comment it would have minimal impact on the nausea. Many psychedelics naturally produce nausea; NBOMes, mescaline, and 2C drugs to name a few.

Anyone taking LSA should do a CWE, it’s the only way that make sense. But the point of doing so is ease of dosing and removal of the nasty seed hull and plant oils that add all sorts of nausea to the already physically trying experience.

Saying doing a CWE of LSA is very similar is not accurate for all the reasons listed before, which is the only reason I jumped in. OP would be much better off searching for a legal/gray-market alternative like a LSD prodrug, other lysergamides like AL-LAD/ETH-LAD, trying other tryptamines like metocin or acetylpsilocin to see if he can avoid the undesirable effects he experiences from shrooms, or trying mescaline analogues if tryptamines just aren’t for him.

But if someone was to want to try LSA, buying HBWR is a vastly superior option to morning glory as a dose would be something like 3-8 seeds versus the hundreds you would need for morning glory. I can’t imagine it is easy to find hundreds of morning glory seeds at all, except covered in pesticide in the garden section of Walmart, while you can easily order HBWR online. Not to mention there is way less plant material to start with, making the entire process easier.