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[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago

You gotta separate the art from the artist. When one of my favorite bands got canceled because the lead singer was into the young ladies, I tried to remember there were four other dudes in the band, as well as presumably a lot of behind the scenes folks who assisted with touring and studio production. Same with movies. You can denounce people for being shitty, but at the same time recognize they were a part of something great.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

I don't know about "gotta" but often, I agree. Picasso was a piece of shit and a great artist. I think it's actually counter productive to take the binary good/bad route in cases like his. The guy is famous already, if we were to try and reverse that, we not only remove art from the world in a sense, but we also decrease society's overall ability to discuss the light and dark side of things.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago

Picasso was a piece of shit ~~and a great artist~~.

FTFY.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Oh God. Every art historian and critic and fan basically disagrees but ok cool

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 43 seconds ago

Every art historian and critic and fan

Lol! You mean those people whose entire living depends on pretending the (so-called) "art world" isn't 90% hype and 10% "Great Man" fallacy?

I can throw a brick on deviantart.com and hit someone that's more talented than Picasso was (well, you could before it got swamped with fake AI), but none of them gets hyped up by a scam industry selling feelgood to rich people, do they?

[-] cokeslutgarbage@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

Lol what does "young ladies" mean here? Like teenage adults or like girl kids. If you're talking about a child abuser, describing him as a man who is "into the young ladies" is super dishonest and makes my skin crawl. If this musician is a child abuser, don't sugar coat your language.

Gross!

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

To me a child is single digits. You're right though, 15 year olds, whatever term encapsulates that age.

[-] M1nds3nd@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago

Ephebophilia can be used as a distinction from pedophilia. Voicing that distinction makes you sound like a pedophile though.

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

I think it's definitely wrong across the board. I honestly think 40 year olds dating 20 year olds is weird and I'm going to think differently of that 40 year old, but the laws have drawn this arbitrary line at 18, and so here we are.

It's all fucked up, but sexually assaulting a literal child versus sexually assaulting via coercion a 15 year old feels like a distinction worth making. You can be Lost Prophets pedophile or Brand New pedophile, they are vastly different degrees of awful, despite both being awful.

[-] umsch@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Unfortunately, people really hate nuance when it comes to this topic.

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Just about any topic, really. I dunno, maybe they're right too, and maybe my desire to define is totally unnecessary.

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