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[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well if by they you mean the monarchy, I think symbolic actions are about all they have been relegated to do at this point in history, and they seem to be crushing that:

In the royal tradition, a sword like this is seen as a symbol of sovereignty. The Senate originally commissioned the sword to the[!] mark the change of reign from Elizabeth to Charles.

They are telling you that you are on your own and better look for reliable alliances fast.

As far as my limited understanding of Commonwealth and UK politics goes the monarch does actually have some pretty extensive rights, but they come along with a damn near 100% chance of a constitutional crisis if enacted.

So if you are looking for something more material I believe the executive and legislative branches of the respective governments are your tree to bark up at. The monarchy seems to be doing all they can in this particular instance.

Which is not much, in that we agree, but symbols are not worthless either. There is a reason every monarchy, religion, and ideology has used them throughout history.

[–] voluble@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Canada needs allies now probably more than ever in its history. What we see here coming from the monarchy is not a meaningful gesture of alliance. That's what I'm bitter about. It's monarchs doing what monarchs do after they've squeezed all the benefit from colonial conquest - they bandy meaningless symbols about. That benefits them, because conveniently, it costs them nothing to 'stay out of politics'.

As a Canadian, it's truly frightening to see world leaders reluctant to simply say the words 'we stand behind Canada'.

What does the word 'Commonwealth' even mean if the British monarchy can't say that and mean it.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's our king but he doesn't rule us. We stand for ourselves, and instead of keeping the item that was supposed to mark the start of his tenure, he immediately gave it to an ally that is being impinged upon.

[–] voluble@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I understand that. And I guess I'm not convincing anyone in this thread, but, things like this, and how the article gushes about Elizabeth's 'brooch warfare', I fail to see how these are things that Canadians ought to feel good about or empowered by. They don't benefit us in any way.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

You say that but they do. The Crown doesn't have the authority to tell people to go get fucked directly anymore, there are the prime ministers and the rest of our elected officials.

So instead of actually doing nothing, they give a threatened man a weapon and show in other ways that they stand behind their people.

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

What we see here coming from the monarchy is not a meaningful gesture of alliance. That’s what I’m bitter about.

They aren't allowed to make any meaningful gesture of alliance, that was my entire point. There have literally been wars fought specifically to take these responsibilities away from them. The ball is in the parliaments court now.

What does the word ‘Commonwealth’ even mean if the British monarchy can’t say that and mean it.

A loose collection of anglophone colonies and their motherland. Its importance declined along with the power of the British monarchy. Which didn't really bother anyone so far because there were things like the five eyes and NATO to fill the gap.