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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/27368980

I am curious if the majority of leftist people don't actually want children haha. There doesn't seem to be any studies about it, but my convos with leftists is that most don't seem to want to have children either for the uncertainty of the future or because they are too expensive or because it wouldn't give them too much time to organize or whatever other reason that I forgot about.

I personally lean on not having children because I have been laid off of several jobs and having someone financially dependent to me scares the shit out of me and would put my stress levels through the roof.

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[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I agree, but in a way everything we do is for selfish reasons.
An avg of 2.1 children can be had per couple and it will not grow the population.
I say that is OK.

[–] Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Population growth is not my main concern. If I have to live in a filthy city, work full-time and barely have money to support myself, I don't see why I should consider having a child.

[–] vvilld@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This completely contradicts your earlier point:

People that don’t want children usually think of the potential wellbeing of a future human. People that do want children, usually do so for selfish reasons.

Are you choosing to not have kids (which is a perfectly fine and morally defensible decision to make) because you're thinking of the potential wellbeing of a future human, or for the selfish reason that it would make your socioeconomic situation more difficult?

Again, simply saying "I just don't want to have kids" is perfectly fine. But you tried to moralize it by saying people who do have kids are selfish and those who don't are altruistic. Yet the reason you gave for not having kids was selfish.

[–] Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl 1 points 11 hours ago

or for the selfish reason that it would make your socioeconomic situation more difficult?

No. My kid will grow up in a bad place and I won't have time to spend with it. I don't have a pet for the same reasons.