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And the problem isn’t Trump but rather the 30-40% that voted fir him
That 30-ish% (or more) of Americans like and support fascism is a real problem. Its been a real problem for... roughly all of human history that 1/3 of us are selfish monsters that lack empathy.
Trump stole the election. He announced he would, his lackeys did extensive voter suppression work, and then he bragged about doing it afterwards. He didn't win a fair election, and it's disgusting that the narratives have fully blown past that.
The wealthiest people on Earth believe that we're in an "end game" of some sort, and that now is the time to do everything in their considerable power to consolidate rule before the big collapse sets in. This isn't an America problem, it's a World Class War and the USA isnt even the first battlefield, just currently the most visible failure of the lower classes to fight back.
Out of ~250 million eligible voters (legally able, 18 or over, etc) roughly 32% voted for trump.
You may already be aware, but several groups have found "interesting" data that is very anomalous, and are beginning some lawsuits for recounts/larger audits (though it takes time).
I would very easily believe that Trump did, but I'm still going to need to see your source.
There's no way to have stolen the 2024 election that wouldn’t require thousands working in secret. He won because more voted for him than for Harris.
So are there thousands of trump cultists ruining america (by strategicaly placing themselves in positions of power like voting volunteers, judges, sheriffs, and so on) or not?
Are you suggesting 100 million people voted for Trump and then went home to celebrate but otherwise didn't do any fascist stuff? Didn't take over any PTA's to get books banned (documented) or take over any courts (some supreme ones even, perhaps) so that laws could be overturned and election decisions quickly made in Trump's favor?
Its a global class war the Australian Murdoch family is a huge reason Americans vote they way they do. Also it has bled into Canada. The freedom convoy and people like Lauren Southern are paid shills for foreign billionaires.
And Eastern European oligarchs and Middle Eastern oil tycoons who are bankrolling it. It's not an America thing lol
Not only an American thing. However it definitely is an American thing.
The Murdochs all have American citizenship and don’t live in Australia.
Literally only Rupert was born in Australia, all the others are from Britain and the US.
I guess dumping all your trash in America makes your spawn American. Must be nice to throw all your unwanted somewhere to take no responsibility for your countries poison people. if you send them elsewhere it's their problem now and you can claim you're not part of it while exporting your own toxic people.
Must be nice being a racist who thinks the immigrants and their children can’t be American.
My entire region voted for Kamala try again.
And yet you think Murdoch and his children who are all American citizens living in America aren’t American?
No. I can see cause and effect.
The cause is he got granted American citizenship, the effect is he is an American.
I need to hire you to summarize my lengthy pretentious blathering into a nice concise sentence. :)
Can we please stop with the mental gymnastics of 30% didn't vote 5% Tiger King and the rest got split between Harris and Trump?
The fact is that the majority of voters chose Trump, period. Now you guys need to get your shit together and fix this shitshow, but as others have said it already, the trust is gone.
Except they didn't. Trump received 49.8% of the vote. The actual fact is the majority of voters chose someone else, they just didn't agree enough on who that someone else should be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election
The point is Trump is not the only problem and the 40% or so that supports him also need addressing. The problem is hundreds of millions of people not just one or two.
What's your take then on the voter suppression all over the country enacted by state GOP officials? Check out Palast's investigations
Also the elections in every swing state are "interesting" aka not like any we've ever seen, according to ETA.
If they have proof then why arent they in court proving it?
They actively are. To run legal battles for recounts/audits in many different states is a ton of time, money, and manpower, so it's not like they can just do it overnight. Also they are building their case to ensure it's built on actual evidence, rather than Trump's lawsuits in 2020-21 that started with the conclusion and worked back to find something.
31%.
No the problem is ALL the about 75% that didn't vote against him.
They were fine with letting Trump win.
According to usnews.com (maybe not the most reputable source but),
Of those, who voted, 49.8% voted trump and 48.3% voted kamala.
That means 31.8% of eligible voters voted for trump, 30.912% voted for kamala, 0.012% voted other, and 36% didnt vote at all. That makes it ~~62-63%~~ 68% of eligible voters didnt vote against him.
Which isnt much better
That makes 69.1% that didn't vote against Trump.
Or in very rough rounded numbers.
About half voted, about half of those voted against Trump. = 75% that didn't.
It was never meant to be an accurate number, but a ballpark rounded number. From 75 to 69 is 6% inaccurate. Good enough for the point I was trying to make. And more accurate numbers dont change the point in any way.
The point is a vast majority is OK with having a flaming fascist sociopath as president.