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[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

accusation is:

“intentionally misdirected federal agents away” from Eduardo Flores Ruiz as agents were attempting to arrest him at her courthouse last week.

so this isn’t about her ruling against trump, but her directly protecting an individual from ice….

so it’s not the long knives yet, she a hero, but it’s not the mass revenge murders… yet

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 18 hours ago

so this isn’t about her ruling against trump, but her directly protecting an individual from ice….

Actually it's very indirect. The accusation implies that she told ICE agents "he's over there!" and scattered like a cartoon distraction. In reality, she told them they had no jurisdiction in the court, and that they had to go talk to her boss.

That's not misdirection, that's just normal workplace behavior. They don't have jurisdiction in the courtroom, therefore they were not pursuing justice in the courtroom, therefore it can't be obstruction of justice to tell them to fuck off.

[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 79 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That's just the official language. They may not kill her, but they are going to remove anyone that gets in their way is what this says to me.

[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 38 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They're going to use her as an example for the justification to arrest other judges as well. This is unprecedented and is going to lead to open violence in the streets.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Thee is not going to be a violent uprising people are to comfortable and lazy.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Fuck off with this rhetoric, please. While we aren't going around torching ICE/cop vehicles and rioting, it doesn't mean we aren't doing anything at all. From protesting with millions across the country and world, to gun purchases and training, to local community outreach and support, things are not stationary.

The world news media is focused on the administration and pussyfooting around the lies and manipulation the administration keeps spewing, there's no media clicks to be had for preparation stories. It's not to the point of violence in the streets, yet, but that doesn't mean we aren't preparing for the possibility.

You wanna be shitty toward the American government as a Canadian, I'm all for it. But please don't conflate this administration with the American population at large. We are not our government and despite no news coverage, we are not idle.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn't have to match. It just has to rhyme.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

i get it, we’re just not there yet and there’s still time to buy guns before it happens.

a judge can’t lie to federal agents who are trying to arrest someone in their courtroom. It sounds like she did.

this should be encouraging, if anything… this judge put herself on the chopping block in order to defy an immoral but legal order… she’s also probably well versed in the law.

this is the kind of resistance we need! a great ally, and a heroic act…

a martyr.

when they start arresting judges who make rulings they don’t like, that’s the night of long knives rhyming

we should worry about getting this judge elected into political office or something….

and also practice target shooting…

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

If it's true. These could be manufactured charges. I don't trust Patel or the Trump administration to be honest about that.

Patel in his tweet wrote that the FBI believes Dugan “intentionally misdirected federal agents away” from Ruiz as agents were attempting to arrest him at her courthouse.

“Thankfully our agents chased down the perp on foot and he’s been in custody since, but the Judge’s obstruction created increased danger to the public,” Patel said in the post.

And they all clapped at the end.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

certainly could be completely fictional charges… if anyone is equipped to fight that, it’s a judge…

[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

That's if they give the judge due process, and don't just immediately claim she's guilty- kinda like they're doing to people they're deporting already. Not a stretch to just skip her due process at this point.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee -4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

We can play what-if all day long, but that doesn't make it true.

[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

And we can ignore the clear pattern of behavior this admin has already shown so far, but that doesn't make what they are doing any less real; what's your point?

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

How? They're taking people with no due process and deporting them already. Why would her being a judge make her position any different, if they are skipping due process again? This administration has shown that they don't care about due process- they just make an accusation, and then go straight to "guilty until proven innocent."

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

undocumented immigrants vs a sitting judge is a pretty big leap… it’s a lot closer than it should be, but a huge leap still

[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Your point is undermined by the fact that some of the people being rounded up are native, US-born citizens. Which means there is not really any leap to make here.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

i think we mostly agree… difference being, you think we’re there, i think we’re approaching there but not there yet….

i wish neither could be right

[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I, too wish neither of us were right.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago

never mind, you were right, we are there now

[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Unarmed liberals need to think about arming themselves.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

fuck liberals but yes, everyone not in the trump cult should be armed

[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

We are a long way off from getting rid of capitalism. Best to deal with the liberals and work toward moving left from there. The US has a long way to go.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 18 hours ago

btw, didn’t the liberals articulate exactly why Patel should’ve been blocked from his appointment to the DOJ, and then approve him anyways?

#maskoff they’re working for the same team, and it’s the oligarchs vs democracy

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 18 hours ago

my enemy’s enemy is my friend…
but most liberals in power seem to be double agents… saying the party line but doing almost nothing for it….

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

a judge can’t lie to federal agents who are trying to arrest someone in their courtroom. It sounds like she did.

She didn't give them false information at all, she just told them to go talk to her boss.

And a federal agent can't try to arrest someone in a courtroom without a judicial warrant. It sounds like they did.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 20 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

She asked the ICE agents to wait for the end of the hearing to arrest him.

So they arrested her.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

that isn’t “misdirected”, but thanks….
do you have a source for this?

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Archive.is link to CNN story to get around paywall

Kash Patel also took down the statement claiming she misdirected them.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 18 hours ago

wouldn’t interrupting a court hearing mean that ICE was obstructing justice?

i suppose she was supposed to have him taken into custody and not allowed to walk out of the courthouse? or since he ran out after he knew ice was there for him, that means she told him in court?

at least everything in the courtroom was recorded… she should have a good case and lawsuit against the FBI….

btw, congress should’ve blocked Patel