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And thus, the Night of Long Knives begins.*
Edit: The AP, as of 15 min ago has posted an update: "Dugan was taken into custody by the FBI on Friday morning on the courthouse grounds, according to U.S. Marshals Service spokesperson Brady McCarron. She appeared briefly in federal court in Milwaukee later Friday before being released from custody. Her next court appearance is May 15."
Thank goodness, she has been released- even if she is still going on trial for a trumped-up charge.
accusation is:
so this isn’t about her ruling against trump, but her directly protecting an individual from ice….
so it’s not the long knives yet, she a hero, but it’s not the mass revenge murders… yet
Actually it's very indirect. The accusation implies that she told ICE agents "he's over there!" and scattered like a cartoon distraction. In reality, she told them they had no jurisdiction in the court, and that they had to go talk to her boss.
That's not misdirection, that's just normal workplace behavior. They don't have jurisdiction in the courtroom, therefore they were not pursuing justice in the courtroom, therefore it can't be obstruction of justice to tell them to fuck off.
That's just the official language. They may not kill her, but they are going to remove anyone that gets in their way is what this says to me.
They're going to use her as an example for the justification to arrest other judges as well. This is unprecedented and is going to lead to open violence in the streets.
Thee is not going to be a violent uprising people are to comfortable and lazy.
Fuck off with this rhetoric, please. While we aren't going around torching ICE/cop vehicles and rioting, it doesn't mean we aren't doing anything at all. From protesting with millions across the country and world, to gun purchases and training, to local community outreach and support, things are not stationary.
The world news media is focused on the administration and pussyfooting around the lies and manipulation the administration keeps spewing, there's no media clicks to be had for preparation stories. It's not to the point of violence in the streets, yet, but that doesn't mean we aren't preparing for the possibility.
You wanna be shitty toward the American government as a Canadian, I'm all for it. But please don't conflate this administration with the American population at large. We are not our government and despite no news coverage, we are not idle.
It doesn't have to match. It just has to rhyme.
i get it, we’re just not there yet and there’s still time to buy guns before it happens.
a judge can’t lie to federal agents who are trying to arrest someone in their courtroom. It sounds like she did.
this should be encouraging, if anything… this judge put herself on the chopping block in order to defy an immoral but legal order… she’s also probably well versed in the law.
this is the kind of resistance we need! a great ally, and a heroic act…
a martyr.
when they start arresting judges who make rulings they don’t like, that’s the night of long knives rhyming
we should worry about getting this judge elected into political office or something….
and also practice target shooting…
If it's true. These could be manufactured charges. I don't trust Patel or the Trump administration to be honest about that.
And they all clapped at the end.
certainly could be completely fictional charges… if anyone is equipped to fight that, it’s a judge…
That's if they give the judge due process, and don't just immediately claim she's guilty- kinda like they're doing to people they're deporting already. Not a stretch to just skip her due process at this point.
We can play what-if all day long, but that doesn't make it true.
And we can ignore the clear pattern of behavior this admin has already shown so far, but that doesn't make what they are doing any less real; what's your point?
that would be a HUGE stretch
How? They're taking people with no due process and deporting them already. Why would her being a judge make her position any different, if they are skipping due process again? This administration has shown that they don't care about due process- they just make an accusation, and then go straight to "guilty until proven innocent."
undocumented immigrants vs a sitting judge is a pretty big leap… it’s a lot closer than it should be, but a huge leap still
Your point is undermined by the fact that some of the people being rounded up are native, US-born citizens. Which means there is not really any leap to make here.
i think we mostly agree… difference being, you think we’re there, i think we’re approaching there but not there yet….
i wish neither could be right
I, too wish neither of us were right.
never mind, you were right, we are there now
Unarmed liberals need to think about arming themselves.
fuck liberals but yes, everyone not in the trump cult should be armed
We are a long way off from getting rid of capitalism. Best to deal with the liberals and work toward moving left from there. The US has a long way to go.
btw, didn’t the liberals articulate exactly why Patel should’ve been blocked from his appointment to the DOJ, and then approve him anyways?
#maskoff they’re working for the same team, and it’s the oligarchs vs democracy
my enemy’s enemy is my friend…
but most liberals in power seem to be double agents… saying the party line but doing almost nothing for it….
She didn't give them false information at all, she just told them to go talk to her boss.
And a federal agent can't try to arrest someone in a courtroom without a judicial warrant. It sounds like they did.
She asked the ICE agents to wait for the end of the hearing to arrest him.
So they arrested her.
that isn’t “misdirected”, but thanks….
do you have a source for this?
Archive.is link to CNN story to get around paywall
Kash Patel also took down the statement claiming she misdirected them.
wouldn’t interrupting a court hearing mean that ICE was obstructing justice?
i suppose she was supposed to have him taken into custody and not allowed to walk out of the courthouse? or since he ran out after he knew ice was there for him, that means she told him in court?
at least everything in the courtroom was recorded… she should have a good case and lawsuit against the FBI….
btw, congress should’ve blocked Patel
The problem with the MAGA/Nazi comparison is not that MAGA isn't as evil, it's that they're less competent.
And why is that a problem? It sounds like a hindrance to them, which is a definite good thing.
Stupid is not the same as harmless. They routinely harm themselves gleefully. They can't comprehend the full consequences of their own actions. That makes them dangerous.
There are many flavors of stupid, many of them are just plain evil.
I didn't say they were harmless. I said their incompetence only helps their opposition.
The Nazis were more competent and still lost. How would being less competent than that help them in any way?
They are causing generational damage to the country. Just because their incompetence doesn't help them doesn't mean it isn't still hurting us. That's the opposite of helping.
Again, I never said they weren't causing harm. You're conflating the concepts of aid and beneficence.
Trump and his ilk being in power is not beneficial to the country, but their sheer stupidity in attempting to achieve their goals aids their opposition in stopping them.
And you're not understanding the type of harm idiots do as opposed to smart evil people. Take immigration. A smart evil person might revoke visas and deport illegal aliens for small things not previously done. They could do this while shielding themselves legally by working within the constraints of the law. The opposition would be powerless because they stay within the law. These ass clowns are deporting legal aliens to countries they have been explicitly protected from being sent to, detaining US born citizens, threatening to deport people to countries they have no connection to, and myriad other completely illegal and unconstitutional things. In a perfect world the opposition could hold them accountable in court. But the opposition is still trying to fight "fair" and twiddling their fucking thumbs.
So this abso-fucking-lutely is not a good scenario because they are stupid. Way more harm is being done and the opposition isn't doing a fucking thing.
Not sure if that's true actually, the Nazis were supremely incompetent as well. It just doesn't take that much competence to smash a delicate balance like the separation of powers. You basically need control of one the three branches of government and you are good to try, Trump controls two and this news is about him smashing the third.
Loading my firearms as we speak
Mine stay loaded. 6 mags for the rifle. It seems like overdoing it to my wife but I will not go to a camp. The shit RFK has proposed puts people like me in danger, even though I'm a cis straight white male. Even if I wasn't on the list so to speak, I would be armed and ready because the people they have targeted are my countrymen. Citizen or not.
Fucking idiot racists can't get it through their heads that they're not going to stop with brown and trans people.
Nah, this is more akin to the Gleichschaltung. The Night of the Long Knives was the Nazis purging their own.
I disagree- I think Gleichschaltung has been underway since day one. This is a much more heinous overstep of the executive branch, imo
Gleichschaltung took a bit of time for the nazis.
The Night of the Long Knives is only applicable if the judge herself were a nazi who is seen as a potential threat due to being slightly differently aligned than the main faction.
It's like a program and it concerns me.
Do you mean pogrom?