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[–] tux0r@feddit.org 126 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Honestly, GIMP is not a good alternative to Photoshop. I know, "it's free" is enough for many people, but it ... just isn't.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 80 points 2 days ago (2 children)

With GIMP 3.0 it's a bit better at least, they've finally added non-destructive editing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfaq-Cm1ZkA

Full changelog here:
https://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-3.0.html

I'd dare say that unless you've already learnt Photoshop (and have to unlearn it) then Darktable+GIMP works fine for home photo editing.
If you're used to Photoshop and your skills with it is what puts bread on the table... then I completely understand not switching tools.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah but it should tell you something that they just figured out non-destructive editing by 2025. Love the team, want to see it succeed, but it’s not PS at all.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My understanding is that a lot of tech debt has been removed with the release of 3.0 and I'm hopeful it will make future updates simpler and faster. :)

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Rooting for them! I have had it installed for like 15 years lol

[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have had it installed for like 15 years lol

Does never removing it count?

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

ha that definitely accounts for the stretches I don't use it

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

GIMP didn't "just figure out non-destructive editing by 2025". You're talking as if it was something that the GIMP development team just decided to randomly add recently, after previously ignoring user demands.

The foundation for that functionality (GEGL) has been in development for ages and was also used for some functionality in 2.6 for a long time. The reason why it took this long is that it's a pretty fundamental change to how the app works. Also, that meshed with other upcoming changes at the time. Also, small development team.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I have said several times I have gimp and support them. I didn’t think they just discovered it - I’m saying the fact that in 2025 they just implemented it is indicative of why I say they’re behind.

They do good work. Yes they’re a small team. It doesn’t change the fact that the software has limitations.

The question isn’t “are they working hard?” or “are they doing a lot for what they are/their size?” It’s “how does it stack against PS?” And of course they can’t hang with the billion dollar international company with an army of programmers.

[–] doxxx@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

As somebody who has been trying to decided which of the RAW photo editors to use, I can tell you that Darktable has a steep learning curve over Lightroom. The UI is incredibly dense and the names of sliders don’t make sense unless you’re an image science expert.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Been usin DT for close to a year now. I agree the learning curve is a little steeper than light room but once you get it, everything clicks into place. I can't believe how powerful this program is and it's free. It's unbelievable

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'll take your word for it, I've never used Lightroom.

Whenever I played around with Darktable it seems finding a tutorial to get the effect I wanted was just a minute of searching away, and there's a ton of beginner tutorials available too.
https://www.darktable.org/2024/12/howto-in-5.0/

But then I was the kid that rtfm the game manual on my way home from the store and love dense UIs as an adult. :)

[–] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Darktable is a godsend to me for converting film negatives.But I pretty much only use image conversion, RGB curve, then fidget with the exposure and RGB sliders in negadoctor a little more then I'm done. No idea how to do anything else.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah I really like what they’re doing and I applaud their efforts, but they are a solid decade behind PS when it comes to feature parity.

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

More than a decade on that. I would say the usability is so bad that they are not on track to catch up ever unless something changes. Every year or so I download GIMP and try to use it for something basic, and I always fail and give up.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] tux0r@feddit.org 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I imagine Gimp users revolting if it ever improves a lot.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Have users ever not revolted against change? :P

[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder if it would be feasible to create a different UI on top of the existing GIMP backend.

[–] Novocirab@feddit.org 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Look into PhotoGIMP, afaik it precisely delivers Photoshop-like symbols, maybe even layout, and shortcuts

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I thought they had stopped development? Have t checked them in a decade.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Last release was in mars

Which tech billionaire flew the dev team into space for this? /j

[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

I assume you are right. So then I ask myself, for my own occasional use, would a standalone version of Photoshop from 2015 cover my needs?

Yeah, I think it would!

I was always a much heavier user of Lightroom than Photoshop anyway. I still need to choose between the FOSS options there.

[–] death@infosec.pub 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The same with Lightroom sadly. The open source alternatives are either too buggy or have UX designed by very "opinionated" people, making them painful and frustrating to use. I currently want to get rid of Lightroom but can't.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Give Darktable a go. I switched from LR to DT a year ago and im never going back.

[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I use krita way more than gimp

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

Krita is also more of a Paint.NET than a Photoshop replacement.

[–] Tonuka@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I love love love GIMP!!!

But yeah it's not a PS alternative, and tbh that's not really what it's supposed to be or what its developers want out of it. it's different

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is an alternative if you are a casual user.

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

You could give Photopea a try, if you're looking for a free (as supported) alternatives, it has all core functions and a interface that looks very familiar. No installation required so you can easily test it, and use it in any browser (not sure how well it works without mouse and keyboard or low end devices though).

If you want more than core functionality I don't think there is a (legally) free option out there.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

My go-to PS app:

https://www.photopea.com/

All online, same controls, hell, same icons. I'm a little stunned that Adobe hasn't sued them into oblivion.

You can pay to drop the ads, but I'm not really seeing much end user benefit otherwise. Not seeing ads ATM, maybe I blocked 'em.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Always with the GIMP hate. You make a better free alternative then.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 1 day ago

It's not on the end user to make a UI that isn't total ass.

[–] CMonster@discuss.online 6 points 1 day ago

If all you care about is the price its great but the UI is trash.