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European bike lanes (like this one should probably depict) are round and solid blue with a bike depicted on them.
In Europe, lanes, where biking is prohibited are denoted by a round white sign with a relative wide red border (circle) and a bike depicted at its center.
I feel like a single line through would have been the correct design choice, still, because in practically every other context, that's what's used (no smoking signs, for example).
Seems like many, many other places around the world put a line through for road signs (though a couple outside Europe don't, and even some inside Europe do): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibitory_traffic_sign
My 2¢, Europe is wrong on this one, despite being right on so much else haha
if I didn't already know better, i would have interpreted these two signs to be synonymous.
Mandatory signs are road signs that are used to set the obligations of all traffic that uses a specific area of road. Most mandatory road signs are circular in shape and may use white symbols on a blue background with a white border, or black symbols on a white background with a red border, although the latter is also associated with prohibitory signs.
i am now more confused than I was before.
The white zone is for loading and unloading only. There is no parking in the white zone.
Learning Vienna Convention road signs takes a few minutes for the basic principles, an hour or two for the really arcane signs such as "watch out for carriages" and "levy ahead".
The system is superior to the North American hell system by a huge margin, not least of which because it allows me to drive to Spain or Czechia without needing to study their traffic laws and learn the local language. The signs will be very similar and their meanings otherwise easy to intuit.
Now let me blow your mind: you already do this in NA. But you stopped at yield signs and stop signs. Their shape is immediately recognizable and parseable even if you don't speak English or even if they are covered in snow (that's on purpose). Now just imagine every sign is like that instead of the designers giving up and writing some text on a yellow rectangle. "Road work ahead"? Bitch, just put a schematic road worker in a red triangle instead of making me read shit at 90 km/h, this ain't book club!
You can’t claim superiority just because a lot of countries adopted it, you can only claim wide adoption
… I joke have gone with your view on the assumption that it’s a newer standard so likely better thought out, but not from this thread. Y’all are convincing me of the opposite
Us system makes better use of shapes, colors, and slashes to be more explicit
US system uses a lot of text, which is unquestionably bad. Also, it uses more slashed singes, which has upsides, it is indeed more intuitive, but also downsides, it's more cluttered.
But it doesn't really matter because you need to learn the system in any way, there isn't one that is just intuitively known, and you have to learn both of them. And in this case I would prefer one that is more widely adopted.
Red means stop not road work. Here orange is used for road work.
Plus some things really need text.
How would that 60 means 60 km to next town with the name.
If it meant that it would have the name of the town on it.
Right so you can't really remove all reading from road signs
One is for waterbikes, one is for Fancy Dress Bicycles Only
Yeah a / would make more intuitive.
Neither is more intuitive, it's just what you're used to, culturally. Europeans could equally go to America, see a white sign with black symbol and red border and remark upon learning that it indicates a bike lane 'That's just not intuitive'.
Yeah agree.
Is there a problem having a little line through the thing you’re not supposed to do?
/American (sorry) question
That is used for cancelling a previous sign.
This is also used on town/city signs to indicate when you are leaving it (at least in Poland)
Technically that is also canceling the previous sign that said you are entering the town.
Ooooh how interesting!!
Thanks for the embeds as well