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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 24 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Is a total ban on diabetes medicine on the way? This is an effort to kill anyone who isn't young and fit.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah, I’d say yes. It's a primer and warning shot. They’ll roll it out in phases.

It gets a reaction out of us. And not always a logical one. A lot of people’s gut instinct is just to deny whatever “they” say. That does two things:

First, it gets their base thinking and talking about how many T2 diabetics are supposedly just consequences of lifestyle.

Second, it pushes the left into reflexively denying that even though it’s partly true. So now, when any real conversation comes up, there’s already a schism. And they can use that to sneak more garbage through, stuff that benefits them and their friends.

Can we head them off at the pass?

No. Never.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Can we head them off at the pass?

No. Never.

Can it come to pass that their heads come off?

“All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again.”

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No. R3v0luti0n is impossible in a postindustrial society.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

So was a housing price crash, until 2008.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The crash was always a built-in undocumented feature of the bubble.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 2 days ago

The reason it never crashed before is because it never bubbled before.

The reason it never bubbled before is because the banks never wrote junk mortgages before.

The reason the banks never wrote junk mortgages before was because they didn't realize that they were "too big to fail."

Massive wealth inequality also drives the situation, because there's a small slice of people who can afford anything and they tend to drive up the prices of things for other people who can't really afford the run-up.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Splendid turn of phrase.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A ton of T2 diabetes is about lifestyle and not much else that’s still absolutely not a reason to deny a person medical care! What’s next? Denying cancer care if they say it happened because of your lifestyle? It’s amoral

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Well think about why they're arguing this point. Break it down logically. What are you actually saying. Like when your wife gets mad you didn't take out the garbage. Is it really about the garbage or is she mad you banged her sister. There's usually a deeper issue at the root and you need to find that core belief. This is about the appearance of health and virirlity. They feel victimhood always and so they project strength. T2 Diabetes is a target because of the implication. My wife is mad because her sister is hotter. It's all about the root.

Once you know the root, you can target their insecurity.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

Is a total ban on diabetes medicine on the way?

Insulin, anyways. I'm sure semaglutide will still be available, since it's such a weight-loss wonder-drug

This is an effort to kill anyone who isn't young and fit.

Or also chronically ill. I'm (relatively) young and very fit, but I'm also type 1 and require insulin to live. It's eugenics, plain and simple.